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Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:32 am to greenwave
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a car inst worth shooting someone over IMO.
don't steal cars, don't get shot.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:32 am to NYCAuburn
If a thug tries to steal a penny off of me, that penny becomes worth more than the thug’s life.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:33 am to NYCAuburn
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You’ve got insurance — let him go to jail.
Chances are, insurance won't pay you the full amount required to replace the car. Yeh, you'll get market value which includes depreciation and you'll have to find something that you can pay for with that amount and then add in all the fees crap. No doubt, you'll be paying some out of pocket which you would not have had to do if this POS had never existed.
About the going to jail part....Chances are he'd never seen jail either. The vehicle would have been located somewhere, stripped of anything that was sellable and the punk would make money off of it. The cops would claim they can't find prints or other evidence.
We can't figure out how to keep murderers off the street due to technicalities and you think they're gonna put a thief in jail?
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I would’ve rather had to get a call to go bail him out of jail than to get a phone call that he’s dead.”
How about not getting a call from the police at all, bitch?
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:34 am to NYCAuburn
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I would’ve rather had to get a call to go bail him out of jail than to get a phone call that he’s dead
I love that it's not "rather get a call that he's in jail". It's clearly, "I'd rather get the call that I can go get him out of jail, because I know how the system works and even though he stole a car, we'll find a way to get him back out on the streets".
I don't agree with just shooting if you aren't in actual danger...but in certain circumstances, I don't care all that much either.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:35 am to NYCAuburn
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When Macklin began pulling away, the lieutenant drew his gun and fired through the open driver’s side window, hitting the teen in the chest.
This might not be as cut and dry as some are making it out to be. It sounds like he may have been on side of the vehicle at the time he shot. At the very least, the fire lieutenant is likely to be forced to fight this out in court.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 9:37 am
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:35 am to greenwave
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Meh, kids can change
Just curious, but when would you consider him no longer a "kid"?
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:35 am to greenwave
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Exactly. And one day when you trade that car in for a new one how you gonna feel killing someone over it.
The reason that so many people are sick of criminals to the point of wanting to shoot them is that if he steals the car and even if they catch him there is no justice. He would likely get off lightly and the person wronged is the one who has to suffer. I am not advocating for killing anyone, but the feeling that some person can steal your stuff and suffer little or no consequences has made people angry over time.
The families of the criminals will always use the sympathy card, but if you are caught stealing something and die because of it that is on you. 100% preventable.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:36 am to whoisnickdoobs
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Macklin, was killed while trying to steal a Jeep from a Chicago fire lieutenant on the West Side last August. The lieutenant had left the Jeep running, and Macklin jumped behind the wheel. The lieutenant drew his gun and fired through the open driver’s side window, hitting the teen in the chest.
I thought guns were illegal in The Democratically ran Utopia, formerly known as Chicago.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 9:37 am
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:39 am to Festus
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Just curious, but when would you consider him no longer a "kid"?
Did you do dumb things when you were 17?
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:41 am to Bolivar Shagnasty
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I thought guns were illegal in The Democratically ran Utopia, formerly known as Chicago.
need a permit from the state and Chicago.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:42 am to greenwave
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Did you do dumb things when you were 17?
I did dumb things when I was 40. Didn't mean I was a kid. But, never, ever stole a vehicle when I was 17 or any other age.
But that's beside the point. Answer my question. At what age would you no longer consider him "a kid".
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:43 am to greenwave
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a car inst worth shooting someone over IMO.
That's a lot of down votes for a common sense post. If a DUI costs thousands to take to court, I can only imagine what it costs to defend yourself for shooting someone.
The thought process of some of these posters is absurd.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:43 am to NYCAuburn
they all have different last names
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:44 am to finchmeister08
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i'd rather you raise your kid to not be a criminal.
It was his sister. No mention of parents in the article.
This part was interesting though.
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Several instructors contacted by the Tribune said they emphasize in their courses that guns should only be used when a life, not property, is at stake.
David Lombardo, a concealed carry instructor who said he has trained more than 7,000 people to get state licenses, said he would let an armed carjacker take his car.
“You want my car? You can have it and I’ll hand over a (credit) card for gas, too," he said. "I’m not going to defend a car with a gun, that’s what insurance is for. I’ll get a better one.”
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Lt. Matthew Boerwinkle, a spokesman for the Illinois state police, said it would not be appropriate for his agency to comment, even though it oversees the issuance of concealed carry permits. He responded with a copy of the Illinois’ “use of force” statute, which says a person is justified in using force to defend his life or the life of another if they reasonably fear similar force against them is imminent.
I would bet if this guy wasn’t a firefighter, he gets arrested. Obviously the first quote is the opinion of the CC instructor, but what the state police responded with doesn’t support what the guy did.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:46 am to Scooba
It is, there was a case up here lately where a man caught a teenage kid stealing some things out of his truck. Kid ran and the guy shot him in the back of the head.
The man that shot him was distraught in court. His sunglasses were not worth taking someones life. and he will pay for that in Jail and emotionally.
Honestly I feel bad for the guy, a thief makes you so damn mad and he got trigger happy.
The man that shot him was distraught in court. His sunglasses were not worth taking someones life. and he will pay for that in Jail and emotionally.
Honestly I feel bad for the guy, a thief makes you so damn mad and he got trigger happy.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 9:48 am
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:47 am to Sidicous
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Stupidity and/or grief does not change facts.
You’re right. Here are the facts.
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According to a police report, the Jeep was parked on the right side of the street and the teen was turning left to pull away from the curb when he was shot. "Vehicle starts to move forward. (The firefighter) moves to the left and draws his concealed firearm and fires one shot through the driver’s window.”
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Illinois’ “use of force” statute, which says a person is justified in using force to defend his life or the life of another if they reasonably fear similar force against them is imminent.
This doesn’t really fit.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:47 am to TH03
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I would bet if this guy wasn’t a firefighter, he gets arrested. Obviously the first quote is the opinion of the CC instructor, but what the state police responded with doesn’t support what the guy did.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:47 am to Bolivar Shagnasty
he had his concealed carry permit
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:49 am to Festus
Doesnt matter, I should have used the word "human" Point is dont shoot someone point blank for stealing a replaceable item.
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