re: When did 'Key-Ev' become 'Keeve'?(Kiev)

Don't know about other areas but I hear two different pronunciations of the letters OIL all the time. Some use it as a 1 syllable word and a guy in the same conversation stretches it to 3.

That's totally different.
Cities change when leadership changes. Why did Constantinople get the works?



This is about pronouncing names differently all of the sudden. I thought we used the English words for European cities not the local terms.

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I thought we used the English words for European cities not the local terms.

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Hmm? As Kiev and Kyiv are both both non-English words, what would you presume we call it?

I propose the coining of a fully English word for Kiev/Kyev:

New Keefsville.

Or North Keeferbrook.

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You know what I'm saying. we don't say Hravska for Croatia. We dint say Moskva for Moskow. We don't call Greece the Hellenic Republic.

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Yes, when place names are not easily pronounceable , we sometimes adopt words in English that more easily roll off the tongue but still have a historical connection to the place we are trying to name.

That hardly factors in to this case as Kyiv and Kiev are both fairly easy to pronounce, with Kyiv being one syllable shorter.

But it still comes down to how we as English speakers pull words from other languages, and it seems more appropriate when your are talking about one culture that you make an effort to pull the words from that culture rather than another culture.

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Jesus Christ, some of you have some touchy insecurities.

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So you disagree. Okay.

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Jesus Christ, some of you have some touchy insecurities.


So you disagree. Okay.

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Well, according to the post I was responding to, some people apparently have the idea that there’s a giant conspiracy by the “elites” to flaunt their education and make your red-blooded Americans feel stupid.


“Fox News says ‘Usama Bin Laden.’ That must be some sort of psych-op to lower the morale of the average American by making us feel stupid!”

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You know what I'm saying. we don't say Hravska for Croatia. We dint say Moskva for Moskow. We don't call Greece the Hellenic Republic.

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We didn't say Mosike (the Chinese name for Moscow) either. Moscow is our own word. We don't have a word for Kyiv/Kiev, we've always used another word. If we are "allies" with Ukraine why not use their spelling over our enemy's spelling? Not every language change -- even if done with the intent to manipulate the public's feelings -- is a virtue signal

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Why did Constantinople get the works?

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That’s nobody’s business but the Turks

Get used to hearing the try hards try to one up you on the upcoming world cup.

Qatar will be Cutter vs the Ka-Tar it had been my whole life.

That's another one.

When Qatar donated that pharmacy Pavillion to Xavier it was Ka-Tar. Next time I heard it, it was Kut-Her.