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When did 'Key-Ev' become 'Keeve'?(Kiev)

Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:44 pm
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:44 pm
Swear I never heard it pronounced that way until recently.
Posted by rsbd
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Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:45 pm to
What if CAT really spelled DOG?????
Posted by WillieD
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Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:45 pm to
Russians pronounce it Key-ev Ukrainians say Keeve
Posted by Spankum
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Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:47 pm to
Honestly, this has been driving me crazy every time I hear it!
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:50 pm to
There’s been, what, 20 threads on this topic between the Poli Board and OT Lounge today alone.

quote:

Swear I never heard it pronounced that way until recently


It’s been standard since 2014. It’s supposed to be a way of reducing the effect of Russian imperialism on Ukraine by acknowledging the Ukrainian pronunciation and spelling.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:52 pm to
I bet none were titled as well as mine though because I didn't see any on the OT and I haven't looked at PT yet.
Posted by red sox fan 13
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Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:53 pm to
Like the Russian version of Lew-UH-vul or Lew-ee-vil for Louisville
Posted by Winston Cup
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Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:54 pm to
It’s Kyiv

And since terd Ferguson has been a racist

And Mr Personality die by torpedo up your arse
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:58 pm to
quote:

Like the Russian version of Lew-UH-vul or Lew-ee-vil for Louisville



Or Mis-zuh-ree and Mis-zuh-rah.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:59 pm to
Come on man don’t be such a philistine.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:00 pm to
It's closer to keef in English which could go either way with their accents.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:04 pm to
American media virtue signaling

Kiev is how Russia spells it

Kyiv is how Ukraine spells it

I’m sure people in Ukraine are going to bed happy knowing America has been spelling it Kyiv for the last two weeks while the missiles explode around them.
Posted by Corbomite
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:07 pm to
Respect their authoritah!
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:08 pm to
quote:

American media virtue signaling Kiev is how Russia spells it Kyiv is how Ukraine spells it


Getting things correct is not necessarily always “virtue signaling.”

It is kinda weird to spell and pronounce something from one culture according to the customs of a another culture that it was subjugated by.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:08 pm to
quote:

Ukrainians say Keeve
No, they don't. Their pronunciation is more nuanced than that. This is nothing but virtue signaling - sort of like when the media just decided it was "cutter" instead of Qatar.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:12 pm to
quote:


Getting things correct is not necessarily always “virtue signaling.”
But "keev" isn't correct.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177373 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:13 pm to
quote:

Getting things correct is not necessarily always “virtue signaling.”

But it is when it was inorganically changed and only done to show solidarity with people getting blown up while you’re safe on the other side of the earth.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
157377 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:16 pm to
a languages professor told me the actual correct Ukrainian pronunciation is "KEE-if", rushing through the word as fast as you can

I'm an American, I pronounce it "Keeeee-evvvvv", democratically giving every syllable equal stress. Any bitch corrects me I just correct them back.
Posted by pensacola
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:16 pm to
It’s just like pock-ee-stahn
Posted by HerkFlyer
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Member since Jan 2018
3212 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:20 pm to
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