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re: What’s an American history hot take you’ve got?

Posted on 8/19/26 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
27948 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 5:53 pm to
Not everyone in the South held that belief.

Arkansas for example was split on succession. The southern part of the state held more slaves and voted for succession.

The northern part of the state held way less slaves and voted to stay in the Union.

It wasn't until Lincoln ordered 700 Arkansas national guardsmen to go to Fort Sumter that Arkansas panicked and decided to join the Confederacy.

If that didn't happen Arkansas would likely had ended up neutral in the war.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36536 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 6:11 pm to
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I don’t feel bad at all for what happened to the Indians. They fricked around, they found out.



Agreed. Also the reservation system was a bad idea. They should’ve been forced to assimilate or die.


Also, how long do people think the status quo was going to continue?

Someone was going to conquer the New World.
Posted by rob0710
LA
Member since Oct 2004
1317 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 6:18 pm to
Slavery never ended. It was just redefined.
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
2332 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 6:23 pm to
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Hell I would go one step forward and ignored the Brits and just joined Germany to take the Soviets out. The Soviets only stood a chance because of US backing during the entire war.


Soviets were backed by the financial system.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42734 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 6:23 pm to
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State borders were drawn nearly as arbitrarily as borders in the Middle East and Africa, and this should be revisited in some way.


Maybe out west, but along the Gulf and Atlantic coasts the borders are pretty geographical
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74595 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 6:32 pm to
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Getting directly involved in WW1 was a mistake.


Agreed. And the same could be said of Great Britain. If they’d have stayed out, the war would most likely have been over before Christmas 1914 and Europe would have been spared the horrors of the Great War and everything that was to follow:

Collapse of the empires
Rise of communism
WWII

Tens of millions of deaths and unmeasurable misery of hundreds of millions more could have been avoided.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
9412 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 6:33 pm to
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Germany didn’t send Lenin back to Russia

Or just didn't invade France.
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9500 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 6:43 pm to
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I saw you in the classes


Are you talking Simeon’s criminal procedure? I don’t remember the class where a person breaking into an occupied dwelling couldn’t get shot.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64034 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 6:45 pm to
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I don’t feel bad at all for what happened to the Indians.


This was not some apocalyptic genocide as the sky screamers on the Left would have you believe.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103847 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 6:52 pm to
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The Deep State has always existed and puts people they can blackmail and easily control into high government office.


It started to an extent with the robber barons in the late 1800s but it was wealthy private businessmen deciding elections. Only after WW2 did the deep state we know now begin to exist. I.E the MIC, intelligence agencies, etc. Eisenhower saw it coming and feared it
Posted by Roy Curado
Member since Jul 2021
1748 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 6:54 pm to
Databases did not exist back then. There was no way for them to definitively know how many hunting licenses there were in our country.

People are just so gullible.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
27948 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 6:55 pm to
They had advantages over American settlers in warfare until the late 1800s.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
13193 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 7:00 pm to
The Battle of the Little Big Horn was a draw.
Posted by dblwall
Member since Jul 2017
1932 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 7:02 pm to
John Wayne Bobbitt should have never closed his eyes.
Posted by GeauxTGRZ
PTal
Member since Oct 2005
4821 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 7:05 pm to
If there wasn't an undercover FBI agent hell-bent on getting his shotgun barrel shortened, then you don't have Ruby Ridge, Waco, and OKC.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38353 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 7:07 pm to
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That goes for literally every country involved in WW1

I’m putting us in the category of nations that had a “choice”. Most of continental Europe didn’t
Posted by VooDude
Member since Aug 2017
3601 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 7:09 pm to
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Soviets were backed by the financial system.
Yes my point, very ironic for a inward system that relies on central government allocation of production and supply chain management. Blow the soviets off the map in 1945 and 90% of today’s problems would have been solved.

Another poster mentioned “but, but what about the power vacuum with the massive soviet lands”. Well if they’re radiated, no one wants them. Think of it as a region to test our nuclear development instead of Nevada.

Without the USSR the Chinese would still be a region of peasants. Maybe Mongolia wants Siberia?
This post was edited on 8/19/26 at 7:11 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38353 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 7:11 pm to
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And the same could be said of Great Britain. If they’d have stayed out

There’s a little chicken or the egg thing going here, vis-a-vis Belgium.

I’m under no impression that the British cared about a piece of paper. But they sure as hell could not let the Kaiser take Antwerp without trying to stop it. The Treaty of London was convenient—and still a tortured decision admittedly.
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
2332 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 7:12 pm to
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Yes my point, very ironic for a inward system that relies on central government allocation of production and supply chain management.


Kind of, if you look at their backgrounds it makes a lot of sense.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
10441 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 7:19 pm to
We should let the Japs have China. No oil embargo, no Pearl Harbor.

And then, when they did attack, the Pacific should have been our primary focus. Saving the Brits' arse got a lot of good men killed.
This post was edited on 8/19/26 at 7:22 pm
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