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What would the economic impact be if all student loans were forgiven?
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:21 am
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:21 am
I honestly don't know how the markets would react? Would banks crash? Would colleges go bankrupt overnight? Would the value of our dollar drop or increase overnight? I think it is an extremely radical move and would have massive impact across all markets not even related to higher education
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:24 am to LoneStar23
Starbucks would collapse because all their workers would be able to pursue their dreams of an interpretive dance about the atrocities of American colonialism.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:24 am to LoneStar23
Depends if they are forgiven or just paid off by Uncle Sam.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:25 am to LoneStar23
Old Testament, real wrath of God type stuff.
Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
The dead rising from the grave!
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!
Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
The dead rising from the grave!
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:25 am to LoneStar23
just think of the worst possible outcome and go with that
that is all anyone does these days anyways
that is all anyone does these days anyways
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:25 am to LoneStar23
A crippling sense that the world is unfair would creep into the actual productive workforce, hastening our slide towards Gomorrah.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:26 am to USMEagles
The people who already paid them off would have a fit, and demand tax breaks on those amounts.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:26 am to Salmon
Not sure. But wouldn’t be upset at having $1200 a month to invest in the economy instead of going to the guvment
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:27 am to LoneStar23
"Forgiving" all student loans is bad policy regardless, but it's beyond idiotic that most of these proposals don't address the issue of college cost inflation in general. Forgiving the loans but doing nothing to solve the underlying issue is just a temporary bandaid
This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 11:28 am
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:28 am to LoneStar23
You'll just be paying them back until you die via tax increases.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:30 am to LoneStar23
Depends. Are you also cutting off the access to easy federal money and the ability to amass mortgage-sized debt before the age of 21 when you do it? Or are we just gonna do this again in another 20 years?
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:30 am to LoneStar23
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Would colleges go bankrupt overnight?
Colleges got their money when you paid tuition with the loan
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:34 am to MusclesofBrussels
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Forgiving the loans but doing nothing to solve the underlying issue is just a temporary bandaid
This.
Plus, too many people think only of the people who owe money on student loans, but every dollar owed is a dollar on a lender’s balance sheet. If that balance is wiped clean, those lenders will likely collapse, and not just the government made lenders like Sally Mae, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac. What you would be looking at is 2008 Housing Crisis all over again with banks collapsing due to unpaid student loans, then those student loan-based securities collapsing in value causing a ripple effect that not only wrecks the financial and education industries and the stock market, but 401k’s, IRA’s, and pension plans as well.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:35 am to MusclesofBrussels
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"Forgiving" all student loans is bad policy regardless, but it's beyond idiotic that most of these proposals don't address the issue of college cost inflation in general. Forgiving the loans but doing nothing to solve the underlying issue is just a temporary bandaid
Pretty spot on. The boomers who paid 1200 a year for a general studies degree in the LBJ administration won’t like it. But it’s true. College should not be free but it should be more affordable, especially now when A more specialized job market virtually demands graduate degrees.Starting with predatory interest rates.
This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 11:38 am
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:36 am to LoneStar23
I'd love to see a world where there were NO student loans backed by the govt. Then these universities would actually have to come back to Earth with their prices. They're out of control now with all the 'guaranteed' govt money being siphoned to them. They don't even give a crap about educating or providing anything quality as long as they can continue raking in that sweet govt money.
It's criminal to give 18yr olds the ability to get into debt that will take them 20 years to pay off. But damn near anything the govt does for wealth distribution is criminal anyway. But the Karens of the world will tell you it's perfectly acceptable to go $200,000 in debt just to end up with some liberal arts degree.
It's criminal to give 18yr olds the ability to get into debt that will take them 20 years to pay off. But damn near anything the govt does for wealth distribution is criminal anyway. But the Karens of the world will tell you it's perfectly acceptable to go $200,000 in debt just to end up with some liberal arts degree.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:37 am to LoneStar23
Set an absolutely horrible precedent.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:39 am to LoneStar23
I can't imagine dumping $1.6 trillion worth of government backed debt would do anything positive for the market, but then again, we've got Democrats wanting to pass another no strings attached stimulus package 2-3x that amount so it may not even make a difference at this point.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:39 am to chillygentilly
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Depends. Are you also cutting off the access to easy federal money and the ability to amass mortgage-sized debt before the age of 21 when you do it? Or are we just gonna do this again in another 20 years?
Just about any time the government tries to fix something they perceive as an economic injustice it turns into a disaster. From the "all Americans need to be homeowners" policies of the 90s to now government backed student loans.
The real solution is that fewer people need to go to a 4 year college.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 11:39 am to LoneStar23
One "unintentional" consequence of this would be a complete undermining of the idea of personal fiscal responsibility. Which is why Leftists/Democrats/Statists/Socialists favor it.
For instance, why did I save $300 dollars a month and squirrel it away for two decades for my kid's education and drive an old beater car and skip vacations and make sacrifices if the government was just going to swoop in and pay for everything?
One inviolable truth, is that if you subsidize something (not being fiscally responsible, dependence on government etc) you get more of it. All this does is make people think government is Santa , which is the real goal here; Increasing dependence on the government. This shift in thinking ends very poorly for America.
For instance, why did I save $300 dollars a month and squirrel it away for two decades for my kid's education and drive an old beater car and skip vacations and make sacrifices if the government was just going to swoop in and pay for everything?
One inviolable truth, is that if you subsidize something (not being fiscally responsible, dependence on government etc) you get more of it. All this does is make people think government is Santa , which is the real goal here; Increasing dependence on the government. This shift in thinking ends very poorly for America.
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