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re: What would be your plan of escape during a mass shooting at work?

Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:40 am to
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98188 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:40 am to
There is no sure fire escape plan. Sheltering in place leaves you a sitting duck. Exiting the building might put you in the sights of an accomplice waiting outside. The only way you know your plan worked is after it's over. If you're alive, you made the right choice. If you're not, you chose poorly.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22168 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:45 am to
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I would shite my pants and hide.


I have a question for you.... If it's a big post-mexican food terd, do you keep pushing it out after the initial release or pinch it off mid stream? I would think that if you kept going with it that you just wanted to shite your pants. Just know that if you blame the situation, the truth will come out when there is a tail in your pants.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64590 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:48 am to
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We can't have firearms at work


Neither can we. That’s why you buy an inside the belt holster. I’ve carried a .44 on my person daily for years with not one person knowing anything about it.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166297 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:49 am to
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That’s why you buy an inside the belt holster.


so edgy. some value their jobs and don't want to risk getting fired.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28904 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:49 am to
If there was a shooter immediately in the hall, I would close my office door and lock it. Then I would push my heavy desk in front of it and just hope for the best.

I have three direct exits around me, so I could easily book it to opposite ends of my office should I have the time to do so. All just depends on where the shooting starts, but my priority would be to lay low.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64590 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:53 am to
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so edgy.


It has nothing to do with being edgy, boy. It has everything to do with not wanting to be in a office full of unarmed people with one armed guy wanting to kill us all.

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some value their jobs and don't want to risk getting fired.


I value my job. Hell, I’ve been here over 20 years. But unless someone comes up and pulls my shirt and pullover off, nobody will ever know I have It.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 9:55 am
Posted by Brightside Bengal
Old Metairie
Member since Sep 2007
3883 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:02 am to
There is only one correct answer:

1. Open the door

2. Get on the floor

3. Everybody walk the dinosaur.
Posted by KSLSUFan
Member since Sep 2017
63 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:05 am to
Pull my cc out and wait till I can get a clear and accurate head shot
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110870 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:06 am to
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What would be your plan of escape during a mass shooting at work?

My old job would have likely been simple. 1 entire wall to my office was glass, so I'd just throw something heavy threw it, and go right out that way.

My new job would be tough. My office door opens to a wide open hallway with the 2 main entrances to the building being on each side, so that's not good. If I felt confident enough to make it across the hall, there's a lot of glass and chairs, so I could get out that way. But I'd honestly probably opt to lock the door and take my chances. I have a drawer at my desk with files and what not so I'd just keep something like that handy, and if someone did bust through the door I'm just throwing them all in the air and bum rushing whoever opened the door and hoping for the best.

That's my plan...RIP OT.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9928 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:08 am to
My office has an outside door
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110870 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:21 am to
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frick sheltering in place, I'm gone. I think the dumbest advice ever is telling people to hunker down or play dead
Don't you think it kinda, ya know, depends on the situation?

I mentioned my new office layout within my building. I walk right out of the door to a big hallway with the main entrances to the left and right of my office. If I hear shooting pretty close, the 100% best idea is to hunker down and the 100% worst idea is to walk right out of my office into the open.

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You stay put and it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
Or the shooter never finds you and if you don't stay put, you put yourself in danger. Or in summation...it depends.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110870 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:22 am to
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I know the expert advice is to shelter in place
That's not so. The expert advice is Run/Hide/Fight. But if running is not an option due to the location of the shooter, then you shelter in place, but it's not the first or preferred method at all.
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
7806 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:41 am to
I got to take part of an active shooter drill when I was in the military and it was eye opening to say the least. All party's knew it was a drill (military, local police, and EMS) and it was still a huge clusterfrick. My take aways from it were:

1) If you can't run, definitely hide. You won't be a sitting duck if you pick a secure place to hide. Me and some friends were told to hide as if we were in shock (not come out when police made their presence known). Well two hours into the drill we were bored as shite because the cops came in, "cleared the room", and walked right past our hiding spot between filing cabinets.

2) Once police arrive I wouldn't be walking around with my gun if I wasn't the shooter. A couple of people got "shot" with blanks by local police when they acted their part and jumped out acting scared and needing help.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20457 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:42 am to
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the person i sit next carries a glock. so stay by him.


Or you'd be the first dead if it was him...
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110870 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:43 am to
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We recently had a guy come into our peds ER armed with large knives in both of his hands threatening staff and visitors. Security quickly got him out of the hopsital where he fled and then tried to charge at police across the street with the knives. Really bad move on his part. Don’t bring knives to a gun fight.

They shot and killed him?

In my old ER this former psych patient comes in to Triage and I just happened to be walking by so I'm assisting him right at the front desk. He's clearly got psych issues and he says during his last visit Security took his knife from him and he didn't get it back...he was clearly agitated. So I'm asking him to explain what it looks like to go check the Lost and Found, and he just whips out this 10 inch knife he had on him and says, "It looks like just this one."

That was a bit scary to say the least. But luckily he meant no harm, and a cop was about 20 feet away and I was able to summons him while talking to the patient by just kinda giving him that look of "Get over here quickly"
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129003 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:57 am to
He tried fleeing to break into a nearby apartment window with knives on hand. Cops tried to calm him down and told him to drop the knives. He refused and then turned and walked towards him with knives still in hand. They then shot him with a bean bag gun thing to stun him. He still came at them with the knives and a cop shot him.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48359 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:58 am to
I just signed up for the Dwight K. Schrute Academy of Office Defense Techniques. I'll let you know after I finish the course.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65044 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:09 am to
I have a Sig P226 and I might not get out but there will be a hell of a gunfight trying.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9175 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:18 am to
Bum rush the shooter.... make the larger office people go first, make a wall.. then BAM!

Seriously, try to hide someplace where I could have element of surprise, once I got hands on him or the gun. Total confidence in taking control.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:24 am to
My wife work for an open air concert venue. She just had her active shooter training this week. We go to a lot of shows there. Since Vegas, I keep my eyes open at all the roof tops around. Crazy I actually think about my escape plan in a situation that I should be enjoying a concert.
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