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Posted on 4/29/23 at 10:32 am to bad93ex
What authority does the EU operate under?
Like what is the limit of their power?
Curious if it’s limited only to trade or if domestic policy can be set too. Like banning gas stoves or things like that.
Like what is the limit of their power?
Curious if it’s limited only to trade or if domestic policy can be set too. Like banning gas stoves or things like that.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 10:33 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Compared to what? In what ways have the member nations appreciably improved from what they were prior to its creation to now?
There hasn’t been a significant military conflict between European states in, what, eight decades? When was the last time that could be said?
Putting aside one’s opinion on whether it should have been the apex goal, if the apex goal was to keep the peace in Europe, the creation of the EU has been staggeringly successful.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 10:34 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Compared to what? In what ways have the member nations appreciably improved from what they were prior to its creation to now?
Compared to the post-WW2 economy, it’s night and day. Hell, the only thing that kept Western Europe afloat post 1945 was US aid.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 10:35 am to Joshjrn
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There hasn’t been a significant military conflict between European states in, what, eight decades? When was the last time that could be said?
I get that. Are you suggesting they were headed toward one at some point in the past 30 or so years, BUT FOR the EU?
I’m not sure what one would be seeing to possibly infer such a thing.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 10:37 am to bad93ex
Allow Germany to subsidize Italy, Spain and Greece
Posted on 4/29/23 at 10:37 am to Y.A. Tittle
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I get that. Are you suggesting they were headed toward one at some point in the past 30 or so years, BUT FOR the EU? I’m not sure what one would be seeing to possibly infer such a thing.
Specifically articulable? Nope. But European history is long, and while it didn’t necessarily always repeat itself, it sure fricking seemed to rhyme every few decades
Posted on 4/29/23 at 10:38 am to Joshjrn
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There hasn’t been a significant military conflict between European states in, what, eight decades? When was the last time that could be said?
You can’t…. From Waterloo to Franco-Prussian War was a little over 50 years.
The peace Europe has sustained since the fall of third reich is unprecedented in history.
This post was edited on 4/29/23 at 10:40 am
Posted on 4/29/23 at 10:44 am to TigerDoc
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Ukraine is a non-EU state (that will eventually be an EU state) fighting another non-EU state.
K
Why is the EU pushing continued war in Ukraine?
Anybody calling for peace gets called a Putin sympathizer.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 10:47 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Are you suggesting they were headed toward one at some point in the past 30 or so years, BUT FOR the EU?
Bro… two major non-EU European nations are at war with each other right fricking now, with hundreds of thousands of men at arms and tens of thousands dead… And a major cause for the conflict is due to their economies.
That’s all the proof you need right there.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 10:51 am to bad93ex
A mix of globalism and trying to tie together enough economies to offset Americas economic leverage on the world stage.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 10:53 am to Cosmo
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is the EU pushing continued war in Ukraine?
I don’t think you a a firm grasp on what is actually going on.
The two biggest proponents of Ukraine from the outset have been the US and UK… and guess what?… neither are members of the EU.
In fact, several EU members have openly pushed for peace deals (Spain and France)… Ana Germany has routinely dragged its feet on military aid to the post where it almost feels like sabotage.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 10:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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illegal invasion
Is there a legal invasion?
Posted on 4/29/23 at 10:56 am to Cosmo
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Why is the EU pushing continued war in Ukraine?
Because Russia has violated international norms and completely disrupted the worldwide economic system and refuses to stop.
Russia's whole goal has been to attack the EU by preventing Ukraine from joining. That's why Russia's puppet pulled the rug on it out of nowhere in 2014, leading to the Maiden Revolution and Russian invasion-seizure of Crimea.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 11:04 am to bad93ex
So the Germans could finally have successful colonization
Posted on 4/29/23 at 11:07 am to greenbean
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there a legal invasion?
You do what the US did prior to invading Iraq and go before the UN, state your case then have the other member nations vote.
Russia, who also has a permanent seat on the UN Security Council, could have done this… but instead they chose to go all cloak and dagger.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 11:09 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Compared to what?
Do you remember the parts in history class about the two most destructive wars in human history?
Posted on 4/29/23 at 11:10 am to bad93ex
Simply to expand the grift. Current governments mostly exist to enrich the political class. We and Europe haven't quite reached Africa level of corruption, but we are well on our way.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 11:13 am to bad93ex
The give poor EU countries a chance to get into richer EU countries pockets.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 11:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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Russia's whole goal has been to attack the EU by preventing Ukraine from joining
The EU wanted a peace deal.
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