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What was life like in the shah ruled Iran?
Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:00 pm
Some people really glorify the shah.
But more realistically I think the shah was pretty bad, but was only about 1% as bad as the Islamic Republic.
But more realistically I think the shah was pretty bad, but was only about 1% as bad as the Islamic Republic.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:02 pm to UFFan
They weren’t any better. They are the reason the Islamic republic came to be.
This post was edited on 5/4/26 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:04 pm to HarryHoudini
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They weren’t any better.
Bs
Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:06 pm to UFFan
Think of the best times.
Then think of the worst times.
Then think of the worst times.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Do tell.
Oh, nevermind. Low hanging fruit is the shah needed to be brutal to suppress violent nationalism/Islamism in Iran, or some such. Carry on.
Oh, nevermind. Low hanging fruit is the shah needed to be brutal to suppress violent nationalism/Islamism in Iran, or some such. Carry on.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
They both starved and killed their own people and did whatever it takes to stay in power. Both regimes are awful. Comparing which one is worse is kinda pointless imo when innocent people are being killed. They both suck.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:08 pm to HarryHoudini
Even then life was better for the average Iranian than, say, the average Russian or Cuban or Yugoslavian
it was an authoritarian government, as the Region has been and will be
there were FAR worse
Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:09 pm to UFFan
Capital punishment sure was wild
This post was edited on 5/4/26 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:12 pm to UFFan
The Shah led a repressive government with a secret police. That turned the media in the West against him.
Then the ayatollah and his violent followers took over, threatening everyone who wasn’t just like them, and only then did we realize the Shah’s secret police were “repressing” the ayatollah’s crazies.
So the Shah looks a lot better 47 years later.
Then the ayatollah and his violent followers took over, threatening everyone who wasn’t just like them, and only then did we realize the Shah’s secret police were “repressing” the ayatollah’s crazies.
So the Shah looks a lot better 47 years later.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:13 pm to UFFan
I think Iran was very similar to the west
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But thanks to the US, things changed after 1979...We created an enemy.
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But thanks to the US, things changed after 1979...We created an enemy.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:17 pm to OWLFAN86
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Even then life was better for the average Iranian than, say, the average Russian or Cuban or Yugoslavian
Thats likes a dwarf bragging amongst midgets
quote:
there were FAR worse
Yeah prob. Both killed their own people at will and are/corruot is what I was getting at. So who really gives a crap how much worse one is than the other?
Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:19 pm to HarryHoudini
quote:the tallest in the room is still the tallest in the room
Thats likes a dwarf bragging amongst midgets
Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:19 pm to UFFan
it was essentially like an Iron Curtain country. Repressive but w/western values seeping in
then jihadis took over and moved the clock back 1,000 yrs
then jihadis took over and moved the clock back 1,000 yrs
Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:23 pm to OWLFAN86
Who said anything about a room?
Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:24 pm to HarryHoudini
quote:
They weren’t any better. They are the reason the Islamic republic came to be.
Insane statement.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:24 pm to UFFan
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What was life like in the shah ruled Iran?

Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:31 pm to Kafka
Weren’t Muslims actually less repressive 1,000 years ago than they now are? In particular on women’s rights?
Posted on 5/4/26 at 8:33 pm to OweO
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But thanks to the US, things changed after 1979...We created an enemy.
That started much earlier when the USA via Standard Oil (now Exxon Mobile Chevron etc) and the UK via British Petroleum Ignored the Persian Empire to recognize a bunch of Bedouin nomads for the oil concession around World War I. Since the Shah was the US and UK Puppet, we continued the environment for the extremist to take root. If you ever watch "Lawrence of Arabia" watch it in this context and it takes on a whole new meaning.
If you happened to be stationed at the Forth Smith airbase in the 1970's, that was the Shah's personal Air Force guys training there.
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