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re: What was/is the high water mark of Western culture?

Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by Big_Slim
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:25 pm to
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There was madness in any direction, at any hour. If not across the Bay, then up the Golden Gate or down 101 to Los Altos or La Honda. . . . You could strike sparks anywhere. There was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were doing was right, that we were winning. . . . And that, I think, was the handle—that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of Old and Evil. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn’t need that. Our energy would simply prevail. There was no point in fighting—on our side or theirs. We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave. . . . So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark—that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.


Just kidding, hippies suck
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:27 pm to
July 20, 1969.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:28 pm to
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We are currently living in the best time in human history.

But isn't anytime in human history the best time relative to the people living during that time?
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:30 pm to
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But isn't anytime in human history the best time relative to the people living during that time?


2008-2016 was arguably the worst timeline in human history.

We've rebounded bigly since then.
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:40 pm to
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July 20, 1969.


July 20, 1944 was almost a high water mark.

Missed it by thaaaat much.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 1:24 pm to
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Right now


While it may not seem so, We are amongst the most peaceful period in human history. Technology has vastly improved the quality of life for commoners.

All thanks to Western culture's post WWII evolution towards capitalism over imperialism
This post was edited on 3/15/18 at 1:25 pm
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 1:43 pm to
Gallipoli is #1.

Posted by TheHarahanian
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 2:07 pm to
Twerking, vaping, and widespread acceptance of tattoos are all sure signs of an enlightened civilization.

Oh, and rap.
This post was edited on 3/15/18 at 2:11 pm
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 2:26 pm to
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quote:

We are currently living in the best time in human history.
But isn't anytime in human history the best time relative to the people living during that time?


Not necessarily.

It could well be argued that living in the 100's AD Roman Empire was better for most people than anything that came after until about the Norman invasion of England or so. More technologically advanced, more peaceful, more stable, more prosperous.

There might be a case as well for the levels that the Assyrian Empire attained as well. Even the Greeks were baffled by a lot of what they accomplished. They wouldn't be surpassed until Rome.

We've largely been on a straight trajectory up since about the Black Death or so. Who knows if that will continue to be the case in the near and far future.

The very idea of society evolving and advancing is a recent and uniquely Western (and especially American) idea. It's now spread throughout the world, but for the vast majority of human history, that wasn't the case. It's actually a very large social condition that separates us from the ancients.
This post was edited on 3/15/18 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 2:31 pm to
Right before Trump was elected.

It has taken a step back since he was elected, but will take a larger leap forward when he is ousted next year.
Posted by KG6
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 2:34 pm to
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Posted by OchoDedos
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 2:37 pm to
Rome 100BC
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 2:42 pm to
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I’ve heard some people say right up until 1914 and the start of the First World War.


They probably have some royal/aristocratic blood. Too many cultural problems in 1914.

And there is a difference between the best time to be alive and the cultural high water mark. 2018 is the best time to be alive.

But for cultural high water mark I'd go with the late 80's to early 90's. Around the time of the collapse of the Soviet Union. The age of social media is definitely not our best cultural era.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 2:48 pm to
the high water mark of western culture is the pecan pie recipe on the back of the karo bottle
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 2:51 pm to
I'd say it was when the north fired on fort sumter
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 2:59 pm to


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Posted by OweO
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 3:05 pm to
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2016 Presidential Election; it was the first time voters told the establishment to GFT




I am all for telling the establishment to GFT, but not at the risk of putting a fricking moron in office. This will get downvoted, but I think Trump is making a mockery of the position.. I just wish there was someone else who would challenge the establishment because Trump only does what is in Trump's best interest and not in the best interest of the country.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 3:12 pm to
1950s-70s is when other countries really started imitating western culture and styles. Even in the Middle East. America winning WW2 and its post war economic boom really led most of the world to look up to us.

Then over time they hated us mostly due to our unnecessary military interventions
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 4:22 pm to
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They probably have some royal/aristocratic blood. Too many cultural problems in 1914.


You may be right. That was certainly the high water mark for European culture, though.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 4:23 pm to
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I am all for telling the establishment to GFT, but not at the risk of putting a fricking moron in office. This will get downvoted, but I think Trump is making a mockery of the position.. I just wish there was someone else who would challenge the establishment because Trump only does what is in Trump's best interest and not in the best interest of the country.


You realize Trump’s predecessor wiped his arse with the Constitution on a regular basis, correct? He made the biggest mockery of the office of the president of anybody possibly in American history.

Let’s not also forget the fact that we had a guy getting blowjobs from his interns in the Oval Office before him too.
This post was edited on 3/15/18 at 4:25 pm
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