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re: What the hell is up with the weatherman lately?

Posted on 4/18/19 at 9:06 pm to
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12798 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

These forecast are very inaccurate yet the media sells them as imminent disasters of biblical proportions.


I’ll challenge you to put these 3 in order of how problematic they are for you

A) chance of tornado today
B) breaking news! Possible you will be killed by a tornado today
C) omg the tornados are coming for me

Both days you are talking about I felt relatively comfortable with the forecast and outcome. I think this is an issue that stretches through far more than weather.
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18953 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 9:19 pm to
And they nailed it last week with the severe weather.

I don’t think you understand how forecasting is or how it works. You’re just another slack jawed yokel mad at the weatherman for not getting it right 100% of the time.

So many threads complaining about meteorologists from people with no capacity for critical thinking but lots of capacity for criticizing things they don’t understand.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

find the weather threads here to be highly entertaining.

Not right, but entertaining


You piece of shite.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

This was complete bullshite today, just as last weekend. People were absolutely hysterical today. There is no reason to scare the shite out of people like that. There is no way to calculate the loses inflected on businesses today.
These forecast are very inaccurate yet the media sells them as imminent disasters of biblical proportions.



, Jesus some of you are more dramatic than TWC.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38223 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 9:35 pm to
Serious question Slack, how’d they get the wind so wrong today? Forecast was for 75 MPH. That shite doesn’t happen unless of a tropical system or a really bad summer tstorm.

What led them to believe we’d get 75 knot winds?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

Serious question Slack, how’d they get the wind so wrong today? Forecast was for 75 MPH. That shite doesn’t happen unless of a tropical system or a really bad summer tstorm.

What led them to believe we’d get 75 knot winds?



I didn't see a single forecast of any of that. Also, 75 knots and 75 mph aren't the same.

ETA this was the wind forecast/probabilities



quote:

Probability of damaging thunderstorm winds or wind gusts of 50 knots or higher within 25 miles of a point.
Hatched Area: 10% of greater probability of wind gusts 65 knots or greater within 25 miles of a point.
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 10:19 pm
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

didn't see a single forecast of any of that.


That was definitely being said.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38223 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:05 pm to
WBRZ was giving that. WWL too apparently.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

That was definitely being said.


The potential for strong straightline winds was there, but no one was "predicting" widespread 75 mph winds. Clearly people don't understand probability.

Basically all of LA was in a hatched area that denotes a 10% chance for "significant severe" weather, which means either 65kt wind gusts, an EF2+ tornado, and/or 2"+ hail within 25 miles of any point in the hatched area.

If you think a 10% chance means "they were predicting 75 mph winds", you need to retake probability.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45505 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:22 pm to
They were talking about grapple sized hail. I told you it was all for ratings.
Posted by Bigbee Hills
Member since Feb 2019
1531 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:23 pm to
Seventy five miles per hour,

Erghh, Erghh,

SeVeNtY FiVe KnOtS.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

They were talking about grapple sized hail. I told you it was all for ratings.



Bruh, kickball size hail is what I was told
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45505 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:25 pm to
I saw that but thought it was hyperbole. I wouldn’t put it past them though.
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
21258 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:27 pm to
They own stock in bread, water, rouses, Walmart, Winn-Dixie, etc.....the more severe the weather forecast the more people will assume the worst and buy essentials
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106021 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

They were talking about grapple sized hail. I


Grapple is basically sleet.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45505 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:32 pm to
I’ve seen a grapple larger than a man’s fist.
Posted by Woodreaux
OC California
Member since Jan 2008
2790 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 11:14 pm to
Aside from human behavior, predicting weather has to be some of the hardest shite in the existence.

It's air!

You can't see it most of the time, and there are so damned many things that influence it that it makes Black Holes seem really simple.

Here's a challenge for anybody who think meteorologists are stupid, or their job is easy. Start predicting the weather yourself. Do it for a months, and then check: a) how accurate were yours compared to the dumbest/smartest weather-person you know and b) how similar your predictions start to become to the dumbest/smartest weather-person you know.

If you're good at it, well consider a new career calling.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:40 am to
It’s not an exact science.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 6:45 am to
quote:

Here's a challenge for anybody who think meteorologists are stupid, or their job is easy. Start predicting the weather yourself. Do it for a months, and then check: a) how accurate were yours compared to the dumbest/smartest weather-person you know and b) how similar your predictions start to become to the dumbest/smartest weather-person you know.


You are exactly right.

So why be so god damn dramatic about something you are unsure of?

They wanted people to be sitting in their tubs with helmets on. Think about that for a second. Dont you think you should be pretty damn sure about something before you recommend that?
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12620 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 2:08 pm to
75 knots = 86.2 mph:
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