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re: What Representing Men in Divorce Taught Me About Fatherhood - Marilyn York

Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:24 am to
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:24 am to
Racism has zero to do with blacks falling behind.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64723 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:25 am to
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I think the larger issue is the de-emphasis on marriage in general. Especially when you have two people jumping into marriage who had no business being married to begin with.



And the glorification of the bachelor and sex in the city lifestyle.

Pop culture hates virtuous responsible, modest, and hard working nuclear families that have traditional values. They despise it.

Having children is a death sentence feminism says.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32744 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:29 am to
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I think the larger issue is the de-emphasis on marriage in general. Especially when you have two people jumping into marriage who had no business being married to begin with.


I think the fatherless thing is a microcosm of that.

Most statistics say that if you graduate HS, wait time have kids till you’re married, and maintain a job, and you are least likely to end up in jail or in poverty.

I think that’s obvious to anybody with a brain.

But... throw in the welfare state, no fault divorces, and encourage single parenthood as an ok thing (I’m not saying that single mothers are a bad thing. God bless the women put in that position) and you arrive where we are. No doubt racism and unequal policing exacerbate the problem, but that’s a chicken and egg thing.

While I want equal opportunities and can support some of BLMs movement, they plainly state they want to disrupt the idea of a nuclear family and that is just foolish at best, purposely destructive at worst.

Nuclear family is the best path we have to BLMs main goals outside of Jesus.
Posted by vistajay
Member since Oct 2012
2936 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:29 am to
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Attorney Marilyn York owns a Men’s Rights Family Law Firm in Reno Nevada, established in 2001. She and her ten female employees focus on representing men for two reasons: 1. As her talk explains, fathers are crucial in the upbringing and development of their children; and 2. Fathers are the disadvantaged parent in family court and society and while the laws are improving, the statistics are not.


3. Men typically earn more money and can more likely afford to pay their divorce attorneys large retainers.
Posted by UptownnMike
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Aug 2015
4129 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:18 am to
Zero? Lol. Trust me I’m all for individual people having to be majority of their own change and not using certain situations as excuses but zero is a stretch my boy.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:31 am to
They have more opportunities than whites today so yes zero .
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59583 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:43 am to
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3. Men typically earn more money and can more likely afford to pay their divorce attorneys large retainers.




The first part was correct but that second part is bullshite. I didn’t have a pot to pee in after my divorce. The ex was living large and I was struggling to live in 1 bedroom that I rented from someone I didn’t even know.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:48 am to
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Im talking like Uncle Phil from Fresh Prince.


Yep....everybody would get in line with the quickness when Phil would lay down the law!
Posted by Bigbee Hills
Member since Feb 2019
1531 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:48 am to
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The biggest part of what's wrong with society today is the de-emphasis on the value of fatherhood.
FIFY.

The de-emphasis has succeeded, and nowadays it has matured in to what we see going on in our society: A total breakdown of order.

The maturation of the cancellation of fatherhood, manhood and masculinity has been a crowning "achievement" of Western Civilization- so much so that for at least the past couple of decades targeting only mature males has lead to the targeting of immature ones as well.

On this subject, I encourage you to read the two books, "Taken Into Custody: The War Against Fathers, Marriage, and the Family" and "The War Against Boys: How Misguided Policies are Harming Our Young Men" for an eye opening, jaw dropping, and statistically-based take on what is, in many experts' opinions, the single most detrimental and damaging social experiment that Western Civilization has ever undergone. From those two books you can begin your descent into the filthy rabbit hole that is currently responsible for single-handedly destroying order and structure of a good and just society as we know it.

What this society needs now, more than ever, are as many of the virtues that we men have to offer: Our instincts and qualities are as critical to society as ever. We won't be (and never have been) perfect, and we don't have to be, but we do have to be allowed "to be."

And anyone who denies, whether by their own opinion, their own "feelings," or a clickbait headline, that the war on men and boys goes much deeper than a news headline or a social media hashtag, and who denies that this is a real war, deeply entrenched in our society and our laws and deeply flawed by the statistical and real-world results, is a fool who denies not only the facts on the paper in front of them, but also the reality that is caving in all around them.

Men matter, white and black men included, and the sooner we men get back to that, the sooner we will see a better future for ourselves and for our descendants. Why fight what is right and put ourselves through the misery of it, when we know that what is "right" will always, eventually, prevail? The only people who will fix this are us men: Men who are willing and able to nut-up, and, little by little, day by day, battle by battle, person to person, win the war by doing instead of just saying. I'm just saying.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19185 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:49 am to
She probably wouldn’t even look at you creep
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:52 am to
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Racism - and exclusively racism - are why African Americans are falling behind every other group in the US


Absolute, bonafide horse-zhit.

Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141286 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:56 am to
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A big part of what's wrong with society today is the de-emphasis on the value of fatherhood.


This is the biggest downfall of society overall in America, and even worse in the black community.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 12:01 pm to
We have a society that is increasingly anti-male. There is no dispute for that. There is nothing in society that says acting like a male is a good thing. Men are not allowed to be strong or tough, those are undesirable traits these days. Stoicism is a lost trait these days. It’s most of the reason why I openly say that giving women the right to vote is the biggest mistake in American history.

Women by their very nature are the exact opposite of men. They do not value liberty and rugged individualism like men. Women by their very nature will vote with their emotions over logic and reason. It’s why the Democrat party does not put things in logical terms. There’s a litany of examples to pull from but the best example is the way the Democrats put the issue of climate change.

Their very nature is to seek protection and when you have a political party that promotes a bigger, stronger government, one in which the government will take care of you, you will automatically get majority of the woman vote.

Women by their very nature will vote for the big government over small, decentralized government.

Small-r Republicanism began to wither away the moment the 19th amendment was ratified.

Capital-S Socialism began to take hold the moment the 19th amendment was ratified.

We began to lose America that day.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 5:44 pm to
Women will get pregnant on purpose to escape their shitty life. Once you have a child you can bum off the family and man and move out of your parents house.
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10765 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 5:52 pm to
I commend and have so much respect for all the loving and wonderful fathers out there. There are some amazing ones. Sadly, the amount of deadbeat trash out there is sickening.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 5:59 pm to
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Women will get pregnant on purpose to escape their shitty life. Once you have a child you can bum off the family and man and move out of your parents house.


You want to fix that?
Bring back the term "bastard"'
Single moms get ZERO monetary boost after the first kid.
Children born out of wedlock can't inherit from the father.





That sound you hear is millions of legs clamping shut.
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 6:02 pm
Posted by TroyTider
Florida Panhandle
Member since Oct 2009
4055 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 6:37 pm to
All government aid should be temporary, as in months, not years. Benefits outside of nutritious foods and basic healthcare should be eliminated, period. It’s not just a single race, just seems more prevalent.

Birth control should be mandatory for women who reach out to the government. Make eligibility for benefit increases have a waiting period. Two things that never will be though.
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
3803 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 7:07 pm to
Having a father is white privilege.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33922 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 7:18 pm to
One of BLM’s founding beliefs is destruction of the nuclear family, removing the father from the equation
Posted by UptownnMike
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Aug 2015
4129 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:19 pm to
Nah
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