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re: What is this elf on a shelf nonsense floating around my FB?

Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:58 am to
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36665 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:58 am to
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my reply was to the buying something because your kid asked for it.. and i can't think of a better reason to buy something.


I agree, but it was a hard lesson I had to learn. For some reason my 5yo didn't appreciate receiving a leaf blower for his birthday.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26751 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:02 pm to
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Really, so you don't say shite like if you touch it, so and so will happen or that it is watching you for Santa and shite?


First, why are you so angry about this.

Second, not really. I mean the book that came with it has been in the bed time book rotation a few times so my kid knows the story, but it's more about him trying to find it in the morning and see what it got up to last night. I'm not even sure my four year old buys that it is alive, but he laughs and has fun with it anyway. He even talks to his friends at Pre-K about what their elves did. They laugh about it for a minute and then move on to talking about boogers and going to the playground jungle gym which is really a real castle that is being attacked by dragons. I'm trying to decide when to tell him to cut that shite out because it is a fricking waste of time to pretend and use your imagination and shite like that. I'm thinking about waiting until he turns five though.

By the way, when "Santa Claus is Coming to Town" comes on the radio, me and my four year old sometimes sing along. It's basically the same message as the Elf on a Shelf book. I wanted to get your valuable and wise opinion - should I quickly turn the song off since it is "bad parenting" to have your kid possibly hear those evil mind-controlling lyrics?
Posted by Tiger55
Gretna, LA
Member since Aug 2004
1484 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:04 pm to
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So youre merely talking about not wanting to ostracize your child from his social group, more or less keeping him in the cool kids group. I dont have kids, but I can see how parents would want to do everything within their power to make sure that they dont actually set their kid back socially in any sort of way because we were all kids once and we all know how hard it can be to make bonds and friendships when growing up. I would like to believe that I wont be the type to give in because "it's what all the cool kids are doing" crap because I cant tell you how much I loathe that type of stuff (shitty pop music, shitty movies, shitty clothing choices, shitty pop music & shitty pop music) and how much the industry capitalizes on it (much like the "wedding industry" and the "engagement ring" industry). Giving in is something that I wont know until I experience it, but Im sure having a kid makes your heart melt and makes you more vulnerable to not sticking to your morals for the sake of just making them happy. I think the Elf thing is stupid and creepy as frick, but I can understand how awesome the game has got to be with your kid when they wake up and look on in bewilderment trying to figure out how he went from the mantle last night to the ceiling fan this morning. That's got to be pretty damn funny. You have to draw the line somewhere though, and putting it on facebook is pretty ridiculous no matter the intentions.


Dmn3305,

You get it 100%. You think you know what you will do as a parent and things you would stick to. Then you have a child and things change drastically. You learn to separate what real morals and lessons you have to instil in them to raise them correctly vs what isn't worth battling and give in a lot. It's not about wanting to keep them in the cool crowd per say, it's about what's best for them and will make them happy. Of course there are lots of lines you draw as I said to raise them right. I say yes a lot, but also say no a lot too where he knows not to just expect things. Sorry, the attitude of this other clown on here which I really don't get, makes me sad for his kids. My son will think I'm an a-hole many times because I will make decisions he doesn't like. This guys kids will think he like that all the time. I know this went off topic but wanted to say I think you have a perfect attitude to have kids. You know you have beliefs, but admit you may alter them (not abandon them) once you have kids. As far as this other guy, don't know what he thinks he's accomplishing with that attitude, most people don't get or agree with him either, but to each their own.
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
85640 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:06 pm to
Yeah I don't get the point in depriving little kids of things they want if it's financially feasible for you to provide

childhood should be a happy time imo
Posted by Tiger55
Gretna, LA
Member since Aug 2004
1484 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:14 pm to
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Yeah I don't get the point in depriving little kids of things they want if it's financially feasible for you to provide childhood should be a happy time imo


100% agree. Youth and innocence will be gone before you blink. You can do this and still raise a great child.

One that doesn't feel entitled, lol
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291679 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:21 pm to
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100% agree. Youth and innocence will be gone before you blink. You can do this and still raise a great child.




If it wasn't all over facebook people wouldnt give a shite.

It looks like fun for the kids if the parents have any kind of imagination
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:21 pm to
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Wow. My five year old son or younger ask for an elf on the shelf (I didn't wait for him to ask for it) and I give it to him, that teaches him entitlement. Wow. It's an extra 20-30 days of magic in their lives because of their youthful innocence that will be gone in a few years. And to see how happy and excited they are about it, it's like a mini Christmas morning each day. It's not about me or their friends, it's about the excitement and joy it brings to him.


All the kids in our family have had an Elf and it's been such fun for the adults, too. My 3 year old nephew gets it this year and he's been so much fun. He loves waking up every morning to find the Elf. Definitely some magic of the season. No one has been traumatized from finding out that the Elf doesn't really fly or Santa doesn't actually bring some gifts. The season is still magical for those who are old enough to know. In today's world, it's good to have some magic. It's also good to learn to share some magic.
This post was edited on 12/18/15 at 12:22 pm
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:23 pm to
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It looks like fun for the kids if the parents have any kind of imagination


I keep seeing the one where they freeze the elf in a block of ice with Elsa from Frozen standing in front of him. All I can think is do these people not realize that shite is gonna melt...
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83168 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:29 pm to
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There has been some psychology studies that have found that to be true in a lot of cases. The Santa lie causing a big loss in credibility and trustworthiness of parents. Starting to question religion as well does happen a lot.



Even if your parents don't do Santa, you are still aware that most kids' parents do and you are still aware that he isn't real. So wouldn't that invoke the sake curiosity about religion?

Also questioning the likelihood of a higher power seems to happen more and more these days regardless.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291679 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:30 pm to
ive seen that one, I think it was in a bowl
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16413 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:32 pm to
What are some of the crazier/more creative ideas you guys have had for hiding the elf? You ever throw a little bit of adult humor in there for laughs?
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83168 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:34 pm to
Have you ever Googled anything? There are some really funny ones.

Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291679 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:35 pm to
how does a toy elf creep out a grown arse man?
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16413 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:39 pm to
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how does a toy elf creep out a grown arse man?


My parents bought me one of these as a child and I never recovered...

Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26632 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:41 pm to
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am not doing it because of either of those reasons. I don't agree with it and it's use as a parenting tool.


How is it used as a parenting tool? I know around 15 families using it, and they all take a light hearted approach to its use, putting him in precarious positions, but he isn't used to parent their kids.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37599 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:44 pm to
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I prefer the Kwanzaa duck bill platypus. Cause nobody knows what the frick it is.


You even wildlife treasury bro?

It has feet like a duck but it's furry.

LINK
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16413 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:45 pm to
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How is it used as a parenting tool? I know around 15 families using it, and they all take a light hearted approach to its use, putting him in precarious positions, but he isn't used to parent their kids.


Isnt the original premise of this doll to let your kids know that someone is always watching and they better behave? I honestly understand why someone could say that parents are using it as a crutch if that's the case, but it seems that most if not all just disregard what it was intended for and use it to be creative and have a good time with their kid, which is what I would use it for too.
This post was edited on 12/18/15 at 12:53 pm
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26632 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:45 pm to
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There has been some psychology studies that have found that to be true in a lot of cases. The Santa lie causing a big loss in credibility and trustworthiness of parents. Starting to question religion as well does happen a lot.


This is fricking retarded. You know what Santa does generate,though? Creativity, imagination, etc. which are also important life skills.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26632 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:48 pm to
Like I said, I personally don't know anyone using it for that. Maybe that's his intended use, but no one I know uses him for that.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37599 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:48 pm to
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The Santa lie causing a big loss in credibility and trustworthiness of parents. Starting to question religion as well does happen a lot.


I think the development of a sense of logic and reasoning ability are what cause kids to question religion. Well, that, and scientific fact.
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