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What in the hell is wrong with medical billing?
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:15 pm
Why does it seem in the last few yrs I’ve been inundated with medical bills? I have 3 kids between the ages of 4 and 12, but every visit any of us go to I seemingly pay a copay and still get these stupid bills? Some I’ll even go, they tell me nothing is owed and still end up dealing with this nonsense. I guess I need to start keeping records of all of this to make sure I’m not being double billed, but why can’t they get it right from go?
This post was edited on 12/26/23 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:16 pm to TJG210
The issue isn’t with the doctors office or the billers, it’s your insurance carrier.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:17 pm to Finch
Indeed over in insurance is the key!
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:18 pm to TJG210
Print a current EOB off your carrier site account or call to have one sent. Reconcile as you go.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:25 pm to Finch
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The issue isn’t with the doctors office or the billers, it’s your insurance carrier.
The issue could just as easily be due to the doctor's billing.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:29 pm to TJG210
I have the same issue. And it takes so long for insurance to figure out what they’re paying that I lose track of everything and end up just paying whatever bills I get
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:31 pm to TJG210
Thank obama, pelosi, (we have to pass the bill to see what's in it), and traitor mccain (nah nah, thumbs down) for the mess you are dealing with.
Dishonorable mention to all the other POS congressturds who helped it along.
Dishonorable mention to all the other POS congressturds who helped it along.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:32 pm to TJG210
I like how you can go to 1 hospital and end up with 683 different bills
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:33 pm to TJG210
I have to keep records and notes on all the bills I get. I call and ask what they are billing for and they don’t even know. I dont get and charges listed out, just a balance figure.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:34 pm to TJG210
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I seemingly pay a copay at all and still get these stupid bills?
Is this english?
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:36 pm to Power-Dome
My wife had a Dr Appt in Nov and paid on site. I still got two separate bills from the same place with two different websites and return addresses to pay bills. If feels like medical billing is still operating in 1992.
This post was edited on 12/26/23 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:39 pm to LeGrosChat
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The issue could just as easily be due to the doctor's billing.
Correct. A very large number of bill issues/insurance not paying is because the doctor’s off medical coding and billing is using the wrong codes for procedures.
Sometimes it’s a simple as the doctor’s office using ICD-9 instead of ICD-10. When the insurance company sends it back because ICD-9 doesn’t give enough info, the doctor’s office handles it as a denial and sends the bill to the patient.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:43 pm to TJG210
I was a medical billing manager a long time ago. I didn't know jack shite about medical billing and really only got hired because I knew the general manager. I got paid handsomely and wrote off a lot of shite because, again, I didn't know what the frick I was doing. I made it just over a year and bounced before they found out all the shite I did and canned my arse.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:44 pm to Upperdecker
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And it takes so long for insurance to figure out what they’re paying that I lose track of everything and end up just paying whatever bills I get
That’s kind of where I am, but I’ll let them go 1 or 2 notices before even opening them up. Usually I just toss out with the junk mail. It’s aggravating bc I really don’t have time to check up on all of their crap. Most are so vague that you don’t know if you’re being billed for medical services or Tibetan hookers.
This post was edited on 12/26/23 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:45 pm to TJG210
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but why can’t they get it right from go?
Hit my deductible then had to have wrist surgery in August
Said I had to pay 1600.00 when I got there
Got EOB in September showing total charges was 600.00
Called them & they confirmed credit & told me it would be mailed within 2 weeks
Called mid October, was told I was on list of refunds to be sent in November
Still don’t have my 1000.00 & all they say when I call is I’m on the refund list
I match up every EOB with my bills, they aren’t going to make it easy to get any overpayments back
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:48 pm to TJG210
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I guess I need to start keeping records of all of this
You do. They frick up all the time. I catch things multiple times a year.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:02 pm to TJG210
The entire system is broken
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:20 pm to TJG210
It's an overly complicated system is the most straightforward answer.
There's many different insurance carriers and within each carriers theres a variety of policies with different deductibles, Co pays, coinsurance etc. There's no way doctors offices to account for all of theses differences outside of collecting the known co pay for the visit.
On top of that, what's being done for the visit isn't known until after the visit. Yeah, you get the office visit charge(e&m) but if youre kid had vaccinations, maybe had a strep test, or labs etc. These are all separate codes(cpts)/charges that will get submitted to insurance that has to be figured out on the backend depending on your deductible(if you have or haven't met it), your coinsurance, and what the contracted rate the doctor, hospital, etc. Afterwhich you get a bill.
There's a reason why administrative costs of delivering Healthcare is one of the main reasons for our high Healthcare costs.
There's many different insurance carriers and within each carriers theres a variety of policies with different deductibles, Co pays, coinsurance etc. There's no way doctors offices to account for all of theses differences outside of collecting the known co pay for the visit.
On top of that, what's being done for the visit isn't known until after the visit. Yeah, you get the office visit charge(e&m) but if youre kid had vaccinations, maybe had a strep test, or labs etc. These are all separate codes(cpts)/charges that will get submitted to insurance that has to be figured out on the backend depending on your deductible(if you have or haven't met it), your coinsurance, and what the contracted rate the doctor, hospital, etc. Afterwhich you get a bill.
There's a reason why administrative costs of delivering Healthcare is one of the main reasons for our high Healthcare costs.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:33 pm to TJG210
American Medical billing is a pandemic. Its the most disorganized system in the world.
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