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re: What factors cause ~13% of the US population to commit ~50% of violent crimes?
Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:32 pm to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:32 pm to Tuscaloosa
Go enroll in a class that specializes in this subject if you truly want to know. The answers are there. Most here will base their answers off opinion and anecdotes.
This post was edited on 2/21/16 at 6:33 pm
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:32 pm to Tuscaloosa
Lack of family structure, lack of positive role models who aren't athletes and rappers, refusal to work with law enforcement, a political party that coddles to them to keep power
Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:35 pm to 13SaintTiger
Where can I find one of these classes that specializes in this area?
Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:39 pm to Tuscaloosa
Lack of family structure and stress on education. 3rd world countries have climbed out of the stone ages on the back of uneducated people educating their kids.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:39 pm to c on z
Educations are provided in urban areas. Teachers can only do so much to motivate 30+ students to better themselves when it isn't being done at home.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:40 pm to Tuscaloosa
Single mothers of fatherless children who may have children from multiple men.
Basically a break down of the family unit. This is the root cause of the issue.
Basically a break down of the family unit. This is the root cause of the issue.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:40 pm to Tuscaloosa
It's family structure, and good family structure.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:42 pm to mailman85
I grew up poor without a father and I was determined that my children would not grow up that way. My brother still lives in government housing and he sees nothing wrong wth it. I did not want to raise a family in somebody else's house and I wanted to be a father to my children. Growing up poor and fatherless make life a lot harder but you can still overcome it with hard work and determination, no matter what color you are.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:44 pm to yurintroubl
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Only because I'd likely be considered immoral by some segments of society.
immoral, not necessarily biblical, but more the themes of religious teachings.
don't eat pork, don't screw animals, don't work on Saturday...is just man made law and differ from religious book to book
but the Golden Rule..do unto others...permeates every teaching
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The Golden Rule or ethic of reciprocity is a moral maxim or principle of altruism found in many human cultures and religions, suggesting it may be related to a fundamental human nature
It's this principle and others that need to be rewarded instead of "getting yours". Flashiness, Bling-Bling to the Yeti-ites, are a problem that will eventually lead to poverty. Through crime or indebtedness, or both, as people push the limits to get that high that they seek.
This post was edited on 2/21/16 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:49 pm to c on z
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Education, or lack thereof could very well be one of the biggest factors behind it.
honest working men could barely read a couple centuries ago. dirt poor, uneducated all over the world, are good people and don't commit crime. It's only when you're in a culture where you get more sex for doing wrong, does the issue come to play. Big house plus a 50k truck and a 40k boat...that you can barely pay for and you are one missed payment from total bankruptcy.....gets you plenty o'tail of the prop stop.
This post was edited on 2/21/16 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:51 pm to Tuscaloosa
Culture and it isn't even close.
They promote violence and dismiss social norms for conflict resolution.
It's starts early. You see it first when nosy young mother's bring their children out to look at homicides that occur in their neighborhoods. They quickly hear their peers and elders glorifying the actions of the offenders as "keeping it 100" and so on. Over time, they become desensitized to violence as continue to see it embraced more in their communities as they are exposed to music, entertainers, and neighborhood drug leaders. Soon they accept violence as a proper way to settle any dispute.
The lack of responsible role models (mostly in the form of absent fathers) during the pivotal teenage years and the easy access to handguns catches up with them as they begin to seek out life with little education and opportunities.
Add in drugs, alcohol, and unstable mental health and you can see how a minor conflict quickly turns into a homicide.
Repeat.
At least that's how I see it.
They promote violence and dismiss social norms for conflict resolution.
It's starts early. You see it first when nosy young mother's bring their children out to look at homicides that occur in their neighborhoods. They quickly hear their peers and elders glorifying the actions of the offenders as "keeping it 100" and so on. Over time, they become desensitized to violence as continue to see it embraced more in their communities as they are exposed to music, entertainers, and neighborhood drug leaders. Soon they accept violence as a proper way to settle any dispute.
The lack of responsible role models (mostly in the form of absent fathers) during the pivotal teenage years and the easy access to handguns catches up with them as they begin to seek out life with little education and opportunities.
Add in drugs, alcohol, and unstable mental health and you can see how a minor conflict quickly turns into a homicide.
Repeat.
At least that's how I see it.
This post was edited on 2/21/16 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:The fact that that's true - which it is - helps to answer the question. There's a lot of researching, a lot of studying, a lot of blaming, a lot of politicking, but not very much acceptance of responsibility when it comes to this issue. By anyone, inside the community or out.
now why is this population poor? that's the subject of an entire college education
Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:58 pm to prplhze2000
can you provide a source for that statistic
Posted on 2/21/16 at 6:59 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Poverty, lack of a family unit, absent fathers, perceived "no way out"
Who are you and what did you do with the baiter who used to occupy this screen name?
Posted on 2/21/16 at 7:00 pm to Tuscaloosa
It's anything but over policing because the most crime ridden areas statistically use 911 far more often.
The bottom line is that this small group of people just don't give a shite about conventional laws and values. I blame the Great Society programs more than anything. They have destroyed the family unit.
The bottom line is that this small group of people just don't give a shite about conventional laws and values. I blame the Great Society programs more than anything. They have destroyed the family unit.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 7:03 pm to Patrick_Bateman
It is only going to get worse- from a New York Times article today
those numbers don't include those in prison which would push the number over 50% for black men
black women's prospects aren't much better
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In Chicago, the jobless rate for Black 16 to 19 year olds was 88 percent.
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in Chicago, where nearly half of black men in this age group(20-24) were neither working nor in school; the rate was 20 percent for Hispanic men and 10 percent for white men in the same age group.
those numbers don't include those in prison which would push the number over 50% for black men
black women's prospects aren't much better
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Among the most startling revelations in the wealth data is that while single white women in the prime of their working years (ages 36 to 49) have a median wealth of $42,600 (still only 61 percent of their single white male counterparts), the median wealth for single black women is only $5.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 7:05 pm to NOLAManBlog
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can you provide a source for that statistic
just looked it up
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Preliminary data indicate that 40.7 percent of all 2012 births were out-of-wedlock, which is appalling, and there are vast differences among racial and ethnic groups. Among non-Hispanic blacks, the figure is highest, at 72.2 percent; for American Indians/Alaska Natives, it’s 66.9 percent; 53.5 percent for Hispanics; 29.4 percent for non-Hispanic whites; and a mere 17.1 percent for Asians/Pacific Islanders.
Read more at: LINK
Posted on 2/21/16 at 7:10 pm to Kujo
so we round off at 80 instead of 70 with the actual number being 72%. Sounds about right. 
Posted on 2/21/16 at 7:18 pm to NOLAManBlog
He might of just been projecting path of the time elapsed since the data was compiled.
This post was edited on 2/21/16 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 2/21/16 at 7:22 pm to upgrayedd
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Poverty and lack of a family unit
No emphasis/realization on the importance of education. Another factor is their own race that condemn their own for attempting to excel/better themselves.
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