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re: What factors cause ~13% of the US population to commit ~50% of violent crimes?

Posted on 2/21/16 at 7:28 pm to
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 7:28 pm to
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What factors cause ~13% of the US population to commit ~50% of violent crimes?

Those damn statues. Take them down so this statistics will equalize
Posted by Redfish2010
Member since Jul 2007
15231 posts
Posted on 2/21/16 at 7:40 pm to
Reading a lot into the broken family unit but I'd argue there's more to it. Africans can't build a solid country across an entire continent. We just see their issues on a smaller scale here
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 7:43 pm to
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Who are you and what did you do with the baiter who used to occupy this screen name?


I don't make excuses for problems in the black community such as crime, lack of fathers, etc.
I don't make excuses for racism either.
They are not mutually exclusive.

But...I did
This post was edited on 2/21/16 at 7:44 pm
Posted by JohnnyT
Central Texas
Member since Feb 2005
1853 posts
Posted on 2/21/16 at 7:44 pm to
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Poverty and lack of a family unit
There are lots of theories on this and my personal one is it all comes down to the value base of the individual.

But to offer a historical perspective on poverty: at the dawn of the industrial revolution (late 1700's), many sociologists thought that it would largely eliminate crime in urban areas since so many jobs were created and overall wealth increased. Unfortunately the fact that more jobs were available didn't change the crime rates in any appreciable way. Some people just want stuff without having to work for it.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70471 posts
Posted on 2/21/16 at 7:50 pm to
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father to be found. The kids are no more than a check to them. Thanks to POS President Johnson





If lincoln wasnt assassinated johnson would never had even been president.

Therefore, it is all lincolns fault
This post was edited on 2/21/16 at 7:51 pm
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 7:55 pm to
Culture
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 8:12 pm to
Warrior gene
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85538 posts
Posted on 2/21/16 at 8:12 pm to
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Culture and it isn't even close


But why does this 13% create and perpetuate this culture? That's the real question.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 8:14 pm to
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What factors contribute to this?


Lack of a family unit, laziness and an unwillingness to try to make their lives better thru achievement.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85538 posts
Posted on 2/21/16 at 8:16 pm to
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Africans can't build a solid country across an entire continent. We just see their issues on a smaller scale here

You're getting close here to offering a deeper, more fundamental reason.

So...Why do you think Africans and black Americans both struggle so much?
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30192 posts
Posted on 2/21/16 at 8:25 pm to
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You're getting close here to offering a deeper, more fundamental reason.



That's going to drag "foreign influence" into it and what is perceived as "wealth" by natives and outsiders. There is stuff in the earth that was more valuable/usable by the outsiders than the natives.

There's no way of knowing EXACTLY how African countries would have developed without interference.... Only that they would still have likely been a technological backwater and still behind in a lot of aspects.

Same goes for Central and South America to some extent.


ETA:

Also - Y'all just remember that this thread started to derail a few posts before this one.
This post was edited on 2/21/16 at 8:35 pm
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 8:48 pm to
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That's going to drag "foreign influence" into it and what is perceived as "wealth" by natives and outsiders.


Like giving indians "boom sticks" and funding those easy to manipulate. It's an industry.
Posted by Redfish2010
Member since Jul 2007
15231 posts
Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:05 pm to
Well that is a complex answer, dating back several centuries. The political shape in Africa is a mess. I think they've got like 60+ religions throughout. European diseases. Tons of landlocked countries that make trade very very complicated (crossing multiple boarders). Tons of land is uninhabitable. Or at least not easy for a large civilization in the conditions of most African countries.

What did I miss?

Eta. They receive billions of dollars in annual aid, yet the story remains the same.
This post was edited on 2/21/16 at 9:09 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:09 pm to
So what causes violent crimes? Its pretty obvious its poverty.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
24177 posts
Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:15 pm to
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What factors contribute to this?


Ignorance.

Education is free to the high school level in the US.

There are a wealth of resources available to minorities for higher education.

Beyond that, there is preference for mortgages, loans, and employment based on racial makeup.

Education is the crack in the foundation. An educated person, with these advantages break "barriers" that defy the stats.
Posted by Brightside Bengal
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:49 pm to
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:55 pm to
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You're getting close here to offering a deeper, more fundamental reason. So...Why do you think Africans and black Americans both struggle so much?





LINK

That and outbreeding
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:56 pm to
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30192 posts
Posted on 2/21/16 at 11:01 pm to
That's a fantastic read.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 11:02 pm to
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Is it over-policing of areas


It's no surprise the cops would be stationed around areas which have more calls. More calls tends to be more crime.

Oh...and the whole broken family sicheeation.
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