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re: What do you think was the single most difficult year to be born in America?
Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:31 pm to 225bred
Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:31 pm to 225bred
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Real funny, a-hole. I lost a lot of good friends due to Net Neutrality being repealed. We managed to get by, but the Paris Climate pullout saw the rest of my community annihilated. I have to drive my F350 around the bodies in the streets everyday just to get to work and back.
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Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:37 pm to OMLandshark
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It’s between 1842 and 1923. 1842 you saw the nation devolve into chaos and got to fight in a war where half your friends were killed. 1923 you don’t get to really experience the Roaring 20s, get the shite of the Great Depression and Dust Bowl, and then get to fight in WWII. That was a rough fricking youth.
No doubt, and between those two, I'd give the nod to 1842. If you were a free man born in the United States in 1842 or 1843, your odds of living to old age weren't very good. You then also had to endure a major economic bust right as you were hitting your peak earning years, huge amounts of civil unrest all over the country for almost your entire adult life (Reconstruction and reactions thereto, labor revolts, anarchism, etc., etc.). You were hitting your old age right as the lynchpins of modern medicine were being introduced on a wide scale.
Life sucked for the meat of the Greatest Generation for their first twenty or twenty-five years or so, but they had it pretty damn good thereafter.
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If you’re black, pretty much anytime before 1964.
Specifically, life got really, really bad - rather than merely generally bad - for African-Americans in two post-Civil War eras: end of Reconstruction and after WWI and the Wilson administration.
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For Europeans I’ll agree with this, but not for Americans. Americans just got in the tail end of WWI when the increased technology made it not as bad as the Europeans experienced during the beginning and middle of the war. You also get to experience the Roaring 20s which was fun. The depression sucked, but at least you wouldn’t be drafted for WWII at that age. The early 20th century was a great time to live for a white guy in the US relative to any other time before at least until the Depression hit.
Yea, the American contingent had a rough go of it for the brief time they were actually in WWI, but they just weren't there long enough and weren't participating in force until the summer of 1918 onward (granted, one of the bloodiest times of the entire war, but still).
That generation got to experience the fruits of America's industrial revolution, becoming a great power, and the introduction of modern medicine and technology on a mass scale. Not that bad.
I'd agree with Hemp's assertion of early frontier life as well. That was an unrelentingly difficult life.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:42 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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I'd agree with Hemp's assertion of early frontier life as well. That was an unrelentingly difficult life.
I agree with this, but I was more thinking 1776 onward. And if you include any time in this contenential history, it would surely have to be from the 1490s through 1520s when most of the continent was being taken out by smallpox.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:45 pm to DemonKA3268
If we’re talking about North America, then probably about 67,000,000 BC. There weren’t any other humans around, so that seems rough.
But the roughest for humans in North America was probably during the first arrival of humans in North America.
If you’re talking about the US, then clearly the correct answer is the day the US was established. Things get better with time, not worse.
But the roughest for humans in North America was probably during the first arrival of humans in North America.
If you’re talking about the US, then clearly the correct answer is the day the US was established. Things get better with time, not worse.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:48 pm to NawlinsTiger9
depends on what color you are, really. for blacks, pretty much anytime during slavery, for whites, asians, etc. living on the frontier during western expansion.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:49 pm to HempHead
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Being born to pioneers in the late 1600s on the frontier. Trying to eek out a living in the hills and hollers of Appalachia with no industrialization of any sort. Fighting the natives. Nothing guaranteed. Those were hard, hard people.
Let's go with 1692.
Being born as a person of color in the US in 2019 is LITERALLY the worst time to ever be born in the history of the planet. White supremacy, a crushing patriarchy, and xenophobia LITERALLY kill hundreds of millions of children of color in this country every year. LITERALLY.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:49 pm to Willie Stroker
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If you’re talking about the US, then clearly the correct answer is the day the US was established. Things get better with time, not worse.
Obviously you aren’t familiar with Southern history from roughly 1860-1880.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:50 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Yeaa ima let yall guys have fun with this one. Life for me would be ptetty crappy being born basically anytime before the 60s.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:57 pm to OMLandshark
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1923
my grandpa was born in '23, was black, and lived a pretty darn good life. fought in the war, finished undergrad, got his phd after having to fight the university board because he was black(btw he was the first black agricultural phd candidate from texas a&m university), taught for 30 years and set his predecessors up with land to hunt and fish, and money to start a business or go to college.
granted, he had to deal with segregation for a lot of his life, but he never bowed his head to anyone. my grandpa was always positive and was always inspiring. when his old students, black and white, see my grandmother or hear my family name, there is respect, love and admiration for my grandpa and that means a hell of a lot to us.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 5:00 pm to OMLandshark
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I'd agree with Hemp's assertion of early frontier life as well. That was an unrelentingly difficult life.
I agree with this, but I was more thinking 1776 onward. And if you include any time in this contenential history, it would surely have to be from the 1490s through 1520s when most of the continent was being taken out by smallpox.
In that case, pick a year sometime between 1840 and 1846 (with 1842 or 1843 being the sweet spot), and nothing else is even in the same universe as far as American history for people of European extraction is concerned.
For slaves, my surface knowledge leads me to believe that life for slaves got progressively worse the further we got away from the Revolution and the banning of the international trade in 1807, so I'll say someone born around 1805 or so would have lived a miserable life.
This post was edited on 3/4/19 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 3/4/19 at 5:06 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Early 1980s, turning 40 in this disappointing and upcoming society
Posted on 3/4/19 at 5:07 pm to 225bred
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I have to drive my F350 around the bodies in the streets everyday just to get to work and back.
Pussy. I'd have driven my F350 OVER the bodies.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 5:09 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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Pussy. I'd have driven my F350 OVER the bodies.
You're a monster!
Posted on 3/4/19 at 5:13 pm to saturday
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It would have been impossible to have been born in America in 1491
Yikes.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 5:14 pm to LSUJuice
quote:Big fricking deal. I went from 400 baud to 150Mbps in one lifetime.
A person born in 1896 would go from seeing horse and buggy as the main transportation to watching man walk on the fricking moon in one lifetime.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 5:59 pm to Masterag
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grandpa was born in '23, was black, and lived a pretty darn good life. fought in the war, finished undergrad, got his phd after having to fight the university board because he was black(btw he was the first black agricultural phd candidate from texas a&m university), taught for 30 years and set his predecessors up with land to hunt and fish, and money to start a business or go to college.
granted, he had to deal with segregation for a lot of his life, but he never bowed his head to anyone. my grandpa was always positive and was always inspiring. when his old students, black and white, see my grandmother or hear my family name, there is respect, love and admiration for my grandpa and that means a hell of a lot to us.
Who downvotes this? I swear some of yall must be the most miserable fricks walking the earth.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 6:12 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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What do you think was the single most difficult year to be born in America?
4500 BC
Posted on 3/4/19 at 6:23 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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I’m going with 1896. You get the first World War, the Depression, and very few remarkable milestones in technology or medicine had been hit.
If you were born then and lived until 80, you saw all of that and WWII and the social change in the 60s... and the airplane, the automobile, air conditioning, the jet engine, antibiotics and modern medicine, computers, jazz, rock and roll, the man on the moon, and a lot more.
Great time to be born to see history.
This post was edited on 3/4/19 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 3/4/19 at 7:08 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Great depression had to be hard.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 7:09 pm to NawlinsTiger9
1994
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