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re: What are the views of the Pope? Non-Catholic Christians, Non-Christians and Women
Posted on 5/7/25 at 4:08 pm to WestBay
Posted on 5/7/25 at 4:08 pm to WestBay
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Catholicism is an absolute disaster at the moment. Truly a den of Satan.
No it's not. It's about as much a disaster as all the false religions and man made christianities. The whole world is the den of satan, what makes you thing that satan wouldn't attack the very thing that most threatens him.
One thing you can place your hope ion is Christ established his one Holy and Apostolic Church and he will not abandon it. Even while evil that men do seems to be abound with in it. All that will be burned away and cleansed on the day of judgment.
That evil of definitely a design of satan to draw God's people away from the Good Shepherd. Many over the centuries have abandoned their salveation by rejecting the Catholic church and following heretics and false teachings.
Jesus healed lepers by touching them and he himself was never made unclean by touching them. The same way the Church cannot be made unclean by the sins of people who have rejected Christ and who proclaim to be Catholics.
People rejecting the Catholic church over scandal are being lead straight to hell by the original lier himself.
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Posted on 5/7/25 at 4:15 pm to rphtx
Your post makes no sense.
Here's the plain English:
" If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven "
Here's the plain English:
" If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven "
Posted on 5/7/25 at 4:17 pm to Artificial Ignorance
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got me curious what do Non Catholics and Women think of the role of the Pope (to Catholicism, Christianity in general and the world)?
And most of the answers you are getting are from Catholics about their view
Posted on 5/7/25 at 4:19 pm to Snipe
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No it's not. It's about as much a disaster as all the false religions and man made christianities. The whole world is the den of satan, what makes you thing that satan wouldn't attack the very thing that most threatens him.
One thing you can place your hope ion is Christ established his one Holy and Apostolic Church and he will not abandon it. Even while evil that men do seems to be abound with in it. All that will be burned away and cleansed on the day of judgment.
That evil of definitely a design of satan to draw God's people away from the Good Shepherd. Many over the centuries have abandoned their salveation by rejecting the Catholic church and following heretics and false teachings.
Jesus healed lepers by touching them and he himself was never made unclean by touching them. The same way the Church cannot be made unclean by the sins of people who have rejected Christ and who proclaim to be Catholics.
People rejecting the Catholic church over scandal are being lead straight to hell by the original lier himself.
The Vatican is filled with active homosexuals and pedophiles. The Church leadership covers up priest pedophilia en masse. Instead of fixing this, they elect Francis who was the definition of a heretic and an abomination. The Catholic Church leadership has fallen to Satan. My previous post was clear, if you are Catholic and you resist these atrocities, then we are on the same side as fellow Christians. If you deny them, you are a participant in satan's conquest of Christianity.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 4:32 pm to jizzle6609
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Probably one of the main reasons the church still survives through 2,000 plus years.
Yeah, think about all the dying Protestant mainline churches and the role of women in those.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 4:41 pm to Artificial Ignorance
I’ve never understood the bickering between Christian religions. From my point of view the religion itself does not vary much if any. Just some practices vary. All seems kind of silly to me.
As for the pope I’ve always seen him as a geriatric. Which is kind of sad, younger guy (under 70) would be better I think.
As for the pope I’ve always seen him as a geriatric. Which is kind of sad, younger guy (under 70) would be better I think.
This post was edited on 5/7/25 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 5/7/25 at 4:47 pm to rphtx
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John 20:23 is not saying that priests have the authority to forgive sins. It is saying that Christian disciples have the authority to pronounce what sins “have been forgiven
No self-respecting Catholic would argue this.
Priests, going back to The Apostles , have always acted as a vessel in the Confessional
Posted on 5/7/25 at 4:57 pm to Snipe
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People rejecting the Catholic church over scandal are being lead straight to hell by the original lier himself.
Link?
Posted on 5/7/25 at 5:08 pm to Champagne
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" If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven "
Sorry you have not studied scripture in depth. Taking a single verse out of context is the problem with people trying to interpret the bible in a way that suits their needs. What I stated means that Christ and God were the only beings capable of forgiving sin. This is backed by the context of scripture entirely.
If you wish to take the verse at face value, it implies anyone at all is capable of forgiving sin. There is no mention of priests and one might argue that Christ gave the disciples this mandate, but He gave it in the sense that they could go out and forgive sin in the name of Christ, not by their own power. This is illustrated again and again as the overall sense of forgiving sin in the entirity of scripture.
Christ gave the disciples the ability to perform miracles, but it was not thru themselves, but ultimately through Jesus.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 5:14 pm to jizzle6609
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Probably one of the main reasons the church still survives through 2,000 plus years.
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Women are not allowed
Versus thrives? 2000 years of flawless history? Women are not allowed in other flawless Religions, too (eg, Muslim). No
Parallels there…
Posted on 5/7/25 at 5:16 pm to rphtx
As a Catholic I can tell you that the Pope is not the antichrist. Scott Baio is the antichrist and Kenneth Copeland is a snake in the grass.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 5:17 pm to krewerider
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I fell out with the Catholic church when Pope Francis came to America in 2015, and lectured us for our indulgences as a rich country. And for not taking care of our poor and homeless.
This. I was ready for Francis to get back to the Vatican and get back to what he does best. Preach charity and frugality while sitting on top of billions of $ of Nazi gold that you don't share with others. The Catholic church is a joke now and has been since Benedict. The pope who came to power like many before him using blackmail and deceit. But when so many high ranking priests and cardinals serve as pedophiles in their spare time it makes extortion a very simple task.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 5:18 pm to West Seattle Dude
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the Pope is not the antichrist.
Yes he is
Posted on 5/7/25 at 5:20 pm to Artificial Ignorance
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In this time of conclave, got me curious what do Non Catholics and Women think of the role of the Pope (to Catholicism, Christianity in general and the world)?
As a non-Christian, the last Pope seemed like a nice guy, and I'm sorry he passed, but I really don't think about the Pope nor care about the Pope.
The Pope has absolutely zero impact on me or how I see the world.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 5:20 pm to Artificial Ignorance
even when I was a practicing catholic I didn't really think much of the pope... the whole process is pretty cool. so much tradition and mystique.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 5:25 pm to Artificial Ignorance
I'm not religious of any variety. That said I respect the principles of it for those that benefit from it.
As for the Pope, as with the American President, I can respect the reverence of the position without agreeing with the human being cast in the role. Day to day, I couldn't care less and likely couldn't tell you his name.
As for the Pope, as with the American President, I can respect the reverence of the position without agreeing with the human being cast in the role. Day to day, I couldn't care less and likely couldn't tell you his name.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 5:26 pm to Artificial Ignorance
Archaic, and goofy
Posted on 5/7/25 at 5:52 pm to mudshuvl05
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mudshuvl05
convert?
"Cradle" Orthodox here and wish we'd let go of the purity fights and insecure chest-thumping.
Tradition is alive. It doesn't exist in the past. The holy spirit flows through it. It's not static. The church evolves with cultural values. Yes, it respects church teachings, but it also keeps an open dialogue with living history, just as the church fathers did in their time.
Overzealous converts projecting their dualistic western minds, brain-dead fundamentalism, odd nostalgia for a fairytale Christian political kingdom, and pedestalized "American Christian values" offer up an incredibly narrow interpretation and practice of what is actually a quite spacious faith.
Universalism is well within the bounds of Orthodoxy.
And while political philosophies operate on a different plane than theosis, left-wing politics do not inherently contradict Christian life, particularly when rooted in protecting human rights and fighting oppression.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 5:59 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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Yeah, think about all the dying Protestant mainline churches and the role of women in those.
Catholics, as does everyone else that is Christian knows the story of Adam and Eve.
The only difference is the Catholic Church gained wisdom from the event and therefore continues the same practices. This will not ever change, ever. Weakness is something we cherish too much now
The next big event is the Eastern Orthodox Catholic reunification.
This post was edited on 5/7/25 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 5/7/25 at 6:04 pm to Artificial Ignorance
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In this time of conclave
Lol! Literally nobody cares about the next Catholic Jesus outside of some Catholics.
Let’s discuss priests molesting kids and being hidden away by Catholics!
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