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re: What are the normal expectations for a 1st grader

Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:02 am to
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:02 am to
The only way to determine if this is considered "too much" is to gain a consensus with the other families.

I almost called bullshite on this...demonstrative? I mean come the frick on.

Almost everyone knows a teacher. Run it past a teacher at a comparable school as well to see if this is comparable to what they are doing. Generally, parochial schools will have the same core curriculum, as will public or charter schools.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 8:04 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:04 am to
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Does he still have recess?

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Nope





What kind of elementary school doesn't have recess? That is bad.
Posted by sportsaddit68
Hammond
Member since Sep 2008
6611 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:09 am to
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My son has taken 9-12 tests every friday since school started. When the school was only in session for 3 days one week he still had the same number of tests


My son is also in Livingston Parish and first grade. I'm sorry that your kid is struggling with this, and I have no idea the homework structure at the school you are in. I do understand frustration when a kid struggles to do something. However, my son also complains about taking four hours of tests in a row every Friday. However, he doesn't complain about them being hard and is making straight A's. I don't have a problem with this.

Let's break down the tests here. One of his test was the teacher calling out 6 words and the kid writes it down. These words were part of his Tricky words list she sent home monday in homework package for us to get him to ready every night. We make him read it every night and initial our name on the homework line that it was completed. Come test time, he knows those words.

A couple of test are using those words or other words. One of them this week was questions that he had to write yes or no. Can a horse sing? Does a baker make cakes? Those are easy. The math test he did was exactly what he was working on all week on the tons of sheets of work they send home. So yes, these little 6-10 question tests might seem like a lot, but it's stuff they have been doing all week. If I give you something brand new to do and you work on it in class throughout the week and a little review on a worksheet with 10 questions a night, come Friday it's easy. Hell, half of his graded tests aren't even on normal size printer paper. It looks like the teacher made three copies a sheet, cut them into thirds and passed them out. They are that small.

I am willing to bet that if you posted the tests and black out the name on the sheet, most people here would agree that it's something a first grader will be able to do.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 8:11 am
Posted by OlGrandad
Member since Oct 2009
4695 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:16 am to
Schools are "teaching" kids how to take standardized tests.

School systems are judged on test scores.
Schools are judged on test scores.
Teachers are evaluated using test scores.


We all know what flows downhill.

My brother teaches in at title I school and told me it has become a joke to see teachers in magnet schools recognized for their test score results.
Posted by Benne Wafer
Member since Jan 2015
469 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:16 am to
Based on my experiences yes, those are insane expectations. I couldn't imagine a six year old NOT hating school with a schedule like that.

In our district they don't even start using letter grading until third grade. Up until then report cards are Exceeding Expectations, Meeting Expectations, and a couple of lower "grades" I can't remember off the top of my head. Quizzes are done to see the progress of kids but again, not graded until third so no studying needed since they are done in class. My oldest usually had homework but it was a worksheet or a free writing assignment, like writing four sentences. She would be done and still have time to play outside a couple of hours before dinner.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 8:53 am
Posted by sportsaddit68
Hammond
Member since Sep 2008
6611 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:19 am to
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What kind of elementary school doesn't have recess? That is bad.



No public school in Louisiana forbids Recess. Louisiana actual passed a "Bring Back Recess Bill" that requires 30 mins of recess though the school can break it up how they see fit.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:22 am to
Yeah I think OP and some are a little dramatic with what is going on.

First grade did have tons of homework for my son, but it was nothing too crazy, just more so annoying. The teacher he had is known as the hard teacher though. Funny one of my friends got her for his son.

Second grade this year he has had no homework - besides weekly spelling tests and reading hours. His grades are all good on tests, quizes and all subjects. I'm happy his teacher takes care of all of this during school.

And for the people saying the have first graders writing papers, prove it. Lol. My kid writes on projects and everything else, but again, I feel like some are being dramatic.

Posted by Thias2685
Member since Sep 2012
2706 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:26 am to
Why are you blaming the teacher?
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:39 am to
Is she trying to make up for her lack of teaching ability by giving so many tests? Seems like you're the one doing the teaching.

When I was younger, our reading course load was ridiculous. We were required to read something like 15-20 100 page books over the summer, and even more during the school year. As a result, I absolutely hated reading, and lost every bit of interest in it. Throughout school, I always watched movies, read Cliff's notes, or asked other people to do my book reports. Currently, I haven't read a non-academic book in 22 years, and I'm 34.

Moral of the story is that she could be pushing kids away from learning. If it is enjoyable, learning is much easier
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:18 am to
I don't believe a single word in the OP. A first grader being expected to correctly diagram a sentence, or identify elected officials from parish level to the President?

A first grader given 10 tests a day once a week? Come on..........
Posted by here4thepopcorn
Houston
Member since Aug 2018
209 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:28 am to
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A first grader being expected to correctly diagram a sentence, or identify elected officials from parish level to the President?


My 1st grader last year had to do this, I thought it was crazy because all I remember was playing Oregon Trail in the 1st grade.

In Social Studies they did start to learn what a mayor was, governor, president etc, but they didn't need to learn them by name. That's insane.

However, 10 tests a week sounds insane. Are these real tests or quizzes or what? I think the OP is exaggerating just a bit.

And no recess? My daughter actually has 2.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
22071 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:38 am to
how else is lil baw gonna compete with our chinese overlords? thanks trump.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:41 am to
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First grade did have tons of homework for my son,


First graders should never have homework
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:45 am to
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First graders should never have homework


I can't even fathom why an elementary school student would need homework. Our school doesn't allow homework before 5th grade. School board policy because we found that a lot of our parent complaints were valid, Teachers were being lazy and simply assigning homework rather than working on the stuff in class with the children as they are paid to do.

We actually discourage a lot of homework for all classes up to and including high school, but pre 5th grade it's not allowed at all.
Posted by here4thepopcorn
Houston
Member since Aug 2018
209 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:48 am to
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I can't even fathom why an elementary school student would need homework.


I tend to agree with this. I understand like 'fun' homework like decorating a pumpkin or something like that.

We have homework free nights. And her homework is due every Thursday and its literally one or two sheets of reading homework for the entire week. It isn't that insane.

Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:55 am to
My son is not struggling he had a 99 in math. He has a 93 in ELA.

He fricking hates school now though. I never hated school at that age. That is my concern.

Some of his tests are fairly hard.

Who is the Mayor of Walker?
Who is the Parish President?

What festival takes place in Potchatoula? New Orleans etc.

What person is the story written in? Was X in the story telling the story?

Is X in the present past or future?

My son is learning shite that is great for a 3rd grader but he doesn't even understand time yet. Has no concept for how many days in a month or very very basic things. That used to be taught at that level.

My son has 12 sight words a week those are fine. But how does a 1st grader read and understand instructions that includes words like "demonstrative" or "comprehensive"?

He also has 10 vocabulary words. My single biggest issue is the mystery ELA subjects they get.

My biggest issue is in the first week of no help from the teacher he had one quiz that was a 100+ word story with multiple choice questions that were all very long sentences. At about another 100 words. He was provided 8 minutes to complete.

An average person that knows how to read is at about 200 words per min. So these kids have 8 min to read 200 words and have total comprehension of the subject and answer questions.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 9:56 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:58 am to
You're full of shite. My nephew is in first grade in one of the best schools in one of the best districts in Dallas and they don't do that shite. I don't believe for one second they're doing this in Livingston fricking parish.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:05 am to
Its 9-12 test.

Typically 2 grades math tests at about 15 questions each.

12 sight words

10-12 vocabulary words

1 HWR (not even sure what this is) test with 12-15 questions on what words fit in a sentence

1 spelling test with 12 words broken up into 3 sections with about 5 questions per section

1 section on identification of words depending on what they learned like e_e words about 10 questions

2 or 3 reading comprehension quizes read the story and answer questions

Then 2 social studies tests. Where he has had to identify landmarks etc. This week he had to draw a picture of what houses looked like in different climates and what type of clothes they wore.

He missed the drawing of clothing people wear in a desert and rain forest.

I'm not even sure what the correct answer was here. Naked?
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:06 am to
There is absolutely nothing I have lied about or embellished at any point in this thread
Posted by here4thepopcorn
Houston
Member since Aug 2018
209 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:08 am to
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Its 9-12 test.


A week?
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