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re: West Baton Rouge going all in with Solar Farms

Posted on 5/26/21 at 2:09 am to
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 2:09 am to
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Investors are making bank is why. Regs guarantee it.

Same with biodiesel manufacturers getting something like $6 per gallon and most is being shipped via rail co California. Sale to California and RIN credits is what that is all about. Without bullcrap regs would never compete with regular ULSD.


This guy gets it.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
7461 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 3:42 am to
It’s nice when the state mandates Entergy HAS to buy your product (electricity) at inflated market prices
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
8146 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 3:51 am to
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Ah, it’s right next to numerous houses. Including mine. I’ve got mixed emotions. I respect the right to do what you want with your land, but I’m not crazy about having it right next to me.

My sister lives off Bueche Rd and my mom off section on Flynn.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
24584 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 4:12 am to
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I think I'd be more accepting of this kind of thing if they planted some trees around the perimeter or something.


Well that would increase the risk of damage to panels when trees blow over or lose branches. Also trees provide shade and block sun rays so I don’t think you will see trees planted anywhere near a solar farm.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16864 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 4:30 am to
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Well that would increase the risk of damage to panels when trees blow over or lose branches.


It’s a hurricane prone area. If these things are so fragile, why are they building them here?

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Also trees provide shade and block sun rays so I don’t think you will see trees planted anywhere near a solar farm.


Show me the tree that can cast shade over 1500+ acres.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:14 am to
What’s wrong with a noiseless solar farm?

Could be another subdivision or a trailer park.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:15 am to
How much property tax does it generate now???

Posted by Notnac
Vidalia
Member since Nov 2020
881 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:40 am to
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but I’m not crazy about having it right next to me.


Well your land to the farm and move. Profit.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25628 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 5:43 am to
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It’s a hurricane prone area. If these things are so fragile, why are they building them here?


Houses can be damaged by trees during hurricane winds, maybe we should quit building them too. Trees are a simple threat to mitigate.

Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 6:04 am to
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But go ahead, solar is bad. You’re right. Good call. Sounds like you know.


Lol. You sho is angry about this. Do you own or work for Sun Electric?
Please link the post where I said solar is bad. Also, the number of permanent jobs isn’t something I made up. The farm owner presented that number. One. One permanent job. That’s why I said it’s of little benefit to WBR. And just for shits and giggles, name the local law firm and local engineering firm that’s handling the details on all of this. I’ll bet they’re from out of state.
But keep posting. It’s fun to watch you get emotional.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10298 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 6:07 am to
vultures fixin to eat with all those wind farm dead birds!
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 6:14 am to
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Well that would increase the risk of damage to panels when trees blow over or lose branches. Also trees provide shade and block sun rays so I don’t think you will see trees planted anywhere near a solar farm.


You can plant trees and or shrubs that provide a visual barrier without effecting the panels. It’s an alternative to putting a fence around it.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 6:17 am to
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What’s wrong with a noiseless solar farm?

Could be another subdivision or a trailer park.


Pretty much the way I’m looking at it. I’m not completely opposed to the proposal. I’m just not knighting for it cause I think it’s a shitty use of the land. But it’s not my land so...
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7547 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:01 am to
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It’s nice when the state mandates Entergy HAS to buy your product (electricity) at inflated market prices


And what do you think Entergy does to their rates when they are forced to buy the solar power and idle down their coal, NG, or Nuclear source?

They are still supporting and maintaining all those other assets for use when the sun isn’t out and there is demand. And then selling less of their own power to boot.

Answer: Rates will go up for the end user.
This post was edited on 5/26/21 at 7:03 am
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:02 am to
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name the local law firm and local engineering firm that’s handling the details on all of this.


Bet you’re wrong.
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
2833 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:08 am to
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How much property tax does it generate now???

Not as much as the solar farm would, farms get huge property tax breaks.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:15 am to
Has anyone studied the net effect on global warming you get from solar panels? How much of that energy we are capturing would have been rejected back into space?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14488 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:23 am to
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Has anyone studied the net effect on global warming you get from solar panels? How much of that energy we are capturing would have been rejected back into space?


I was wondering if it would heat up the area because of the reflection.

ETA: I just googled it. It is called "solar heat island effect."
This post was edited on 5/26/21 at 8:25 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16864 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:27 am to
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And what do you think Entergy does to their rates when they are forced to buy the solar power and idle down their coal, NG, or Nuclear source?



I think they are required to be net carbon neutral by 2035 or 2040. So they will not retrofit coal or natural gas plants past 2023 or 2024, and they will decom most of 30 years later.

The problem is that, as you pointed out, clouds and nightfall limit the output generated by solar. And there's not always enough wind to power turbines.

Nuclear is a great option and they did just get River Bend recommissioned, so it's safe for 20-30 more years. But natural gas plants like Big Cajun II and III are eventually going to be shut down.

It's concerning because the methods of energy storage aren't really well evolved yet, and as more people are forced into electric cars, the demand for energy at night will grow. And the demand for A/C in south Louisiana definitely doesn't slow down on those hot, still days with no wind to power the turbines.

TL; DR. Solar is fine for accessory power, but it's not really great for base load generation. I think it's perfect for smaller homeowner maintained systems to handle some of their energy consumption, but I don't think these giant farms are a great idea and wouldn't be common without heavy subsidies. Even if the practicality problems with solar energy is not enough to convince you that they are a bad idea, and you don't care if a hideous solar farm is behind your home.....at least consider the environmental angle.

Tiny cracks and fissures in the photovoltaic cells materialize pretty quickly. This is accelerated if a hail storm or high winds hit the solar panels. When these cracks occur, cadmium can leach out of the cells and end up washed into the ground with the rain. This ruins that land for any agricultural or residential use after the solar farm has to shut down, and they can cost millions to clean up.

It's a bad idea all around, especially within 40 miles of a population center. That land in west Baton Rouge would likely be developed into housing or some kind of employment center within the next 50 years. But they are now going to be a solar farm for the next few decades, then a toxic waste site after that.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:31 am to
Yea thats what I was looking for.

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