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Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:34 pm to The Ramp
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Honestly I don't think any of that compares to what the Chinese Commies did to their own people. Starved millions TWICE
Different methods of attacking the same goal. They’re at least on the same plane. And the Soviets for what they did to their own people as well and the Ukrainians. Still think for sheer assholery the Mongolians take the cake.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:51 pm to Cossatotjoe
They say 1/200 men living on earth today are direct descendants of Genghis Kahn. A massive DNA study was done in the early 2000s.
National Geo
National Geo
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Genghis Khan, the fearsome Mongolian warrior of the 13th century, may have done more than rule the largest empire in the world; according to a recently published genetic study, he may have helped populate it too. An international group of geneticists studying Y-chromosome data have found that nearly 8 percent of the men living in the region of the former Mongol empire carry y-chromosomes that are nearly identical. That translates to 0.5 percent of the male population in the world, or roughly 16 million descendants living today.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:59 pm to A Smoke Break
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The crusades.
Not even close
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:00 pm to A Smoke Break
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And if we're speaking ancient man, the Persians.
Also not even close.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:01 pm to crash1211
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If you have a Great Courses account. They have a pretty good course about it. The Barbarian Empires of the Steppes.
And I love that professor. Kenneth Harl I think is his name.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:02 pm to GumplandTiger
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Genghis Khan, the fearsome Mongolian warrior of the 13th century, may have done more than rule the largest empire in the world; according to a recently published genetic study, he may have helped populate it too. An international group of geneticists studying Y-chromosome data have found that nearly 8 percent of the men living in the region of the former Mongol empire carry y-chromosomes that are nearly identical. That translates to 0.5 percent of the male population in the world, or roughly 16 million descendants living today.
Quick, somebody post the “I like rape” meme from Blazing Saddles.
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:03 pm to Cosmo
quote:And reconstruction. Case in point they bent the knee on occupying New Orleans so Rutherford Hayes could be president. Good job fellas
Yankees during Civil War
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:06 pm to Dennis Celery
Mongols were badass (aside from the rape) (believe all women). Religious tolerance, free and safe trade. You’re welcome, Silk Road.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:07 pm to V Bainbridge
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If leaders surrendered to the Khans (before fighting) they were surprisingly tolerant. You could keep you religion and culture and in most recorded instances they would leave you be as long as you paid tribute.
If you defied them they would murder EVERYONE.
this
ya'll should read Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World. fantastic read. I consider it better than wrath of the khans
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:07 pm to biglego
Okay just sprang for the great courses. Thank god he’s got a decent narrating voice. I just can’t listen to annoying voices, even if the info is solid
I’m in a steppe people wormhole right now even though I’ve listed to wrath of the khans about 3 times
I’m in a steppe people wormhole right now even though I’ve listed to wrath of the khans about 3 times
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:08 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:10 pm to hendersonshands
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Mongols were badass (aside from the rape)
Not the murder and torture?
The truth of the matter is nan was and has always been horribly violent. Rape and murder were simply par for the course. It was just what happened in sacks and raids and helped spread genetic material. One could even say that rape made the world.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:10 pm to fr33manator
Harl has several really good lectures. Check out his one on the crusades. I think it’s The Era of the Crusades.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:12 pm to GreenRockTiger
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Because Houston didn’t have crime or disease before that
Not like after Katrina.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:15 pm to hendersonshands
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Mongols were badass (aside from the rape) (believe all women). Religious tolerance, free and safe trade. You’re welcome, Silk Road.
Create a wasteland and call it peace.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:59 pm to A Smoke Break
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And if we're speaking ancient man, the Persians.
It’s the Assyrians hands down, you just lost all of your credibility when it comes to ancient history
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:07 am to A Smoke Break
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I still say it's equally bad
So on one hand we have facts.
And on the other hand we have you just literally saying it anyway.
Hmmm. Toss up I guess.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:31 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Not like after Katrina.
Riiiiight.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 7:15 am to Hester Carries
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So on one hand we have facts.
And on the other hand we have you just literally saying it anyway.
Hmmm. Toss up I guess.
Dude watches Kingdom of Heaven one time and now knows all there is to know about the era.
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