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re: Were the Mongolians in the Middle Ages the biggest a-holes in history?

Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:56 am to
Posted by Cossatotjoe
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:56 am to
The Assyrians had some pretty great ideas we should probably implement today. For instance, if a judge or magistrate was found to be on the take or otherwise wrongfully influenced in a case before him, they would skin him alive. Then they would take his skin, tan it, and use it to cover a chair in which the next judge or magistrate would sit.

That sounds like a pretty good deal.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145262 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:57 am to
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Yankees during Civil War

confederates before civil war
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19326 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:12 am to
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quote:
Stalin and Mao Zedong killed millions of their own people.


Pol Pot makes them both look like angels.

Not really. Pol Pot killed 2.8 million (high end estimate)

Mao killed 45 million in 4 years with his Great Leap Forward.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13745 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:21 am to
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The frick they were.

They were conquerers who changed the face of the world.

They offered fair terms to those who would bend the knee, and took no half measures with those who didn’t.
They rewarded bravery, even in their enemies.

Conquering is bloody work, and even bloodier in the past. And you’re mad at the mongols because they were good at it?



Conquoring wasn't necessary for their survival past a very early point and mass genocide and rape isn't excusable. They purportedly murdered millions of children because, as you put it, their parents wouldn't "bend the knee".

But keep defending child murdering rapists. I'll keep calling them sub-human.

ETA:

And what does changing the face of the world have to do with not being sub-human pieces of shite? The SS and Hitler sure changed the world too...

This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 10:22 am
Posted by Dennis Celery
Member since Apr 2021
708 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:24 am to
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Was there a bigger gap between the Mongols and the #2 assholes of their era compared to assholes of other eras and their peers.


Considering that I’m not even really sure who would be in the running as #2 a-hole of the era, I’d say yes.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76587 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:27 am to
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Mongolians had the same policy.


It was a rather standard policy in an age of bloody long sieges
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124616 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:41 am to
Dude...are you aware of history, at all?

Do you think it was a tea party?
This isn’t a contest for who you think would throw the nicest children’s birthday party.

Do you think nice people made the world? There are 2 types of people, conquerors and the conquered.

Were the allies in WW2 subhuman scum too?

Lots of dead kids under their bombs.


Posted by Dennis Celery
Member since Apr 2021
708 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:44 am to
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They offered fair terms to those who would bend the knee


Well, except the numerous times they weren’t.

I don’t really have a big problem with the Mongols, I just think that they were assholes.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 11:18 am
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11131 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:46 am to
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I came to this thread just for the South Park references. I am highly disappointed.



Same lol
Posted by Dennis Celery
Member since Apr 2021
708 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:51 am to
I, too, have read Empire of the Summer Moon

The Comanches were about as close to Mongols as you could get in terms of how they fought and how brutal they were.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:22 am to
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Were the Mongolians in the Middle Ages the biggest a-holes in history?


If you are talking Genghis Khan, no. He actually only invaded in retaliation.

"If you invade from West to East, you're Alexander The Great. But, if you invade from East to West, then you're the Barbaric Genghis Khan."

Why Genghis Khan Refused To Invade India | Abhijit Chavda
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
9723 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:33 am to
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The Rape of Nanking even sickened the Nazis, and think how fricked up you have to be to do that.

I believe the safe zone set up by westerners that were living there at the time’s unofficial leader was a Nazi/Nazi supporter. I could be wrong but I think one of the reasons he became the leader was because they thought due to the alliance between Germany and Japan that it would be beneficial in saving more lives
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109180 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:44 am to
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I believe the safe zone set up by westerners that were living there at the time’s unofficial leader was a Nazi/Nazi supporter. I could be wrong but I think one of the reasons he became the leader was because they thought due to the alliance between Germany and Japan that it would be beneficial in saving more lives


You did not misremember that. You are indeed correct.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5840 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:45 am to

The Comanche took real pleasure in torturing their prisoners. The accounts given in Micheners "Texas" are hard to fathom. Worse than the Apache.

Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42578 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:47 am to
What the Californians did to the Mexican-Americans and Asian-Americans was pretty a-hole and gets swept under the rug. The largest lynching in American history happened in Los Angeles.
Posted by Cossatotjoe
Member since Oct 2020
938 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:51 am to
The Commanches couldn’t hold a candle to the Eastern Indians like the Shawnee. The things that went on along the Ohio River in Ohio and Kentucky are unimaginable. The Shawnee were badass.

By the way, in the early 1800s, parties of Delaware and Shawnee and the like who had been displaced to west of the Mississippi wandered all over the Great Plains and Texas kicking arse and taking names with no fricks given about the Commanches or anyone else.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37590 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:52 am to
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How the frick have we gone 5 pages and no reference of this...


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Posted by Dennis Celery
Member since Apr 2021
708 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:53 am to
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The Comanche took real pleasure in torturing their prisoners. The accounts given in Micheners "Texas" are hard to fathom. Worse than the Apache


Yeah I always wonder why the Apache are always given so much more press than the Comanche. The Comanche were about a million times more badass and fear enticing than the Apaches or any other tribe on this continent were at the time.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37590 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:57 am to
Because the Apache helicopter is so much cooler.
Posted by Buddy Red
Maringouin, LA
Member since Aug 2007
279 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:16 pm to
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I, too, have read Empire of the Summer Moon

The Comanches were about as close to Mongols as you could get in terms of how they fought and how brutal they were.


Great read huh?

(my 5 year old has earned her nick name of "prairie flower"!)
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