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re: Were the Mongolians in the Middle Ages the biggest a-holes in history?
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:25 pm to deltaland
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:25 pm to deltaland
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What’s amazing is that Mongolia was such a power but is irrelevant today. Hell you never even hear about that place
Gunpowder being used for military use and ocean going vessels. These things allowed people to negate the advantage their horse skills gave them and allowed people a way to simply say “frick it I’m not dealing with you. I’ll go around.”
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:28 pm to Oilfieldbiology
You can make a pretty strong case for a lot of civilizations being pretty big jerks throughout history, especially if you go back far enough. Also have to remember that we're looking at them through a modern, civilized lens, rather than the norms of their own time.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:29 pm to Sectest
You mean I shouldn’t judge a civilization from 2,000 years ago where slaves were arguably the biggest spoils of war through my current sensibilities?
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:44 pm to fr33manator
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:45 pm to Cdawg
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Yankees during Civil War
You mean after?
During, after, now ... they might not be brutal but perhaps just insufferable
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:55 pm to A Smoke Break
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Japanese and their treatment of the Chinese in ww2.
Dude, no! The Nazis gassed six million Jews!
What the Mongols did, so did the Chinese, Americans, Spaniards, Negros, Native Americans, Arabs, Pacific Islanders, Japanese...in short, everyone. Modern men learn about something like that and are appalled, as though it was unique. That’s what makes us susceptible to shite like Critical Race Theory, which pretends this stuff was uniquely done to one group. All of us are descended from slaves and slavers.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:55 pm to Dennis Celery
Aztecs need a little love here.
“80,400 men, women and children were sacrificed for the inauguration of the Templo Mayor”
“80,400 men, women and children were sacrificed for the inauguration of the Templo Mayor”
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:57 pm to junior
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Aztecs
I studied Mexican history throughout college and they are some messed up people
Make Stalin look tame
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:01 pm to A Smoke Break
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It's referred to as "The Crusades" and honestly, it's the most brutal historical period imho.
No, it’s not! It is typical of all periods until Western Civilization elevated the individual’s interest above the leaders’ interest. The period of the Crusades was not terrible brutal compared to Roman conquest, Nordic Viking, Samurai wars. It was certainly more benign than the Mongol invasions.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:24 pm to A Smoke Break
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The crusades.
You mean seeking to reclaim lands that were lost to the Muslim hordes. The muslim hordes that slaughtered hundreds of thousands, and enslaved Christians?
The same muslims who were invading Anatolia/Iberian peninsula/the balkans aka Christendom
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:32 pm to Dennis Celery
The Crusades
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:38 pm to Cosmo
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Yankees during War of Northern Aggression
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:44 pm to Dennis Celery
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Why
because he is anti-white and anti-Christian
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:46 pm to gthog61
I know, I just wanted to hear him say it
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:53 pm to Dennis Celery
D Block Boys. And you assholes from NOLA that invaded Houston bringing your disease and crime with you. By far the biggest assholes
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:52 pm to LoneStarRanger
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You mean seeking to reclaim lands that were lost to the Muslim hordes. The muslim hordes that slaughtered hundreds of thousands, and enslaved Christians?
The same muslims who were invading Anatolia/Iberian peninsula/the balkans aka Christendom
Again, read the second response I made.
I used the term Crusades as an historical event, not highlighting just the christians. If I wanted to single them out, I would have outright said "The Christians during the crusades". The whole time period was a brutal period in history.
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This sounds like a freshman business major's answer to the question. Especially the last two - crusades & Persians?
Guess I need to expand my reach in terms of reading on world history and civ? St. Landry Parish and Community college did no favors to my interest in it.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:03 pm to Dennis Celery
Estimates put Gengis’ body count as high as 80 million people. Eighty million people in the 12th and 13th centuries when most of that was done by hand. Those figures probably haven’t been surpassed today even by Stalin and Mao, but they are unbelievable when you consider how they were done then.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:12 pm to DaleGribblesMower
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And you assholes from NOLA that invaded Houston bringing your disease and crime with you
Because Houston didn’t have crime or disease before that
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:15 pm to AllDayEveryDay
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Julius Caesar killed/sold into slavery hundreds of thousands of not into the millions during his conquests into Gaul. So he's a pretty big a-hole.
That's not even close to being true. He did set some examples but he was known for his clemency. And he knew he had to parlay quarrelling enemies alive. He got a crap load of Gauls for cavalry.
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