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re: Were the 80s the best time to be a kid in American history?

Posted on 7/7/19 at 5:56 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 5:56 pm to
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Pregnancy, drug overdoses... almost every bad statistic you can come up with.


Now you’re just grasping. You’re not saying drug overdose rates were worse in the 80s than today, right?

Posted by GATORGAR247
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 5:58 pm to
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That’s what everybody did in our mid teens. We walked down the road looking for Hustlers or Penthouses in the ditch and dad had an old Playboy stash

We had a garbage bag full that we stashed in a log in the woods..
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 6:20 pm to
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The 80s and 90s were all time highs for violence, crime, drugs, teen pregnancy, etc.

They were not great. People were, and still are apparently, ignorant.
The 90s were the peak of violent crime and as I said earlier, you did have to lock your doors during the 1980s, but it was still a GREAT time for people who made relatively good choices.
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 6:26 pm to
You're shutting him down at every turn, but, it wasn't as peaceful as some made it out to be earlier in this thread. Safer times were likely during the late 1940s and 50s. That's not to say those were better times than the 80s. I figure they closely approximate each other.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 6:26 pm to
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The 80s and 90s were all time highs for violence, crime, drugs, teen pregnancy, etc.


Don’t you dare come in here and shite all over our feel-good nostalgia. It was great!
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 6:31 pm to
Yes. I said drug overdoses. And apparently I was wrong.

Although, again, I wish you would post links to these graphs.

My point still stands though. The 80s/90s were not great as a whole.

People just have fond memories of their childhood. I’m sure kids in the Depression era had fond memories of their childhood too.





Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 6:36 pm to
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My point still stands though. The 80s/90s were not great as a whole.


You mean your opinion. Which, and I know this may come as a shock to someone as smug as yourself, doesn’t equal fact. It’s your opinion the 80s were not great as a whole. However, as this thread clearly illustrates, for the overwhelming majority of people who were kids during that time, they have a far different opinion on the matter.
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 6:38 pm to
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The 80s/90s were not great as a whole.
bullshite. What was the problem? As I said, city crime was high, but those from families who made reasonable choices didn't have to deal with it. I experienced a few incidents(kids chasing me for my bike and a purse snatching with my mom) but I grew up in New Orleans and it was still relatively benign.

The fact is, the 1980s were so great that we crushed our only true rival and that now allows us to bitch amongst ourselves about gender, safe spaces and the unreal number of comforts afforded the lowest of class.
This post was edited on 7/7/19 at 6:41 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 6:49 pm to
Right now in America is the best time and place to live in the history of the universe
This post was edited on 7/7/19 at 6:52 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 6:50 pm to
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posted by Darth_Vader

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know this may come as a shock to someone as smug as yourself,
oh, this is rich
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 6:50 pm to
Crime. Crime was a serious issue. Crime continually rose all of the 80s and peaked in the early 90s. And it seems pretty dishonest to just dismiss it as “city problems” when we are discussing this on a societal level, not individual level.

I realize people lived in small bubbles and were ignorant of the crime around them for that most part, but that doesn’t negate just how bad the crime truly was.

Imagine if we had the OT back then and how many threads we would have about how the world was going to shite from all the crime. It would be constant.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 6:52 pm to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 6:52 pm to
Most people have fond memories of their childhood

I had a great time as a kid in the 80s

My anecdotal experiences mean nothing though, and neither do anyone else’s.
Posted by MTG325
Shreveport, LA.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 6:54 pm to
Get off the school bus and hop on our dirt bikes and ride wherever we wanted until dark everyday. Now all neighborhoods and stores. We had one of the first satellite systems, huge disk in yard, you could hold 2 or 3 buttons at once on the remote and get japanese porn, finally figured out to put toothpicks in buttons. Dad had a station wagon, always smelled like shiners, early 80's, good times.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 6:54 pm to
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Crime. Crime was a serious issue. Crime continually rose all of the 80s and peaked in the early 90s. And it seems pretty dishonest to just dismiss it as “city problems” when we are discussing this on a societal level, not individual level.
It was just "city problems", it's dishonest to paint it as anything else. Darth showed you the graph. Rural crime is unchanged over the years. Suburban crime was low as well.
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I realize people lived in small bubbles and were ignorant of the crime around them for that most part, but that doesn’t negate just how bad the crime truly was.
I wasn't in one of those bubbles, as I said, and it was still relatively nice and not what you paint it to be. It was a most excellent decade.
This post was edited on 7/7/19 at 6:59 pm
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 6:58 pm to
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. We had one of the first satellite systems, huge disk in yard, you could hold 2 or 3 buttons at once on the remote and get japanese porn, finally figured out to put toothpicks in buttons.
Dude, you were a rich kid. Probably had Intellivision or....Coleco vision on a Curtis Mathis TV while I was fricking around with Atari Combat on a black and white 17 inch Sanyo.
Posted by karmew32
Scott, LA (born & raised in Ponchy)
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 6:59 pm to
No, but you got to experience the core 90s, one of the 2 main periods of Millennial kid culture (the other being the 1998-2004 Y2K period).

You had:
-90s Nickelodeon
-Disney Afternoon
-Disney Renaissance movies
-FOX Kids
-SNES vs. Genesis
-DOS and Amiga games (Doom, Lemmings, Turrican, etc.)
-4th and earlier 5th generation gaming
-TMNT, Power Rangers and Pogs


I had:
-Powerhouse Cartoon Network
-Toon Disney pre-Jetix
-Pre-movie SpongeBob
-Pokemon, Powerpuff Girls, Dragon Ball Z, and Yu-Gi-Oh
-Kids WB (Turner/Time Warner DOMINATED this era)
-Tamagotchis and Furbies
-Humongous Entertainment games
-PopCap when they still had a diverse library
-Later 5th and 6th generation gaming
-Web 1.0

The 90s and early-mid 2000s was truly the best time to be a kid. It all came to a crashing half in 2006 when the 7th generation of gaming, Hannah Montana, and Ben 10 ruined everything. At least YouTube was golden during the late 2000s.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80817 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 7:02 pm to
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Right now in America is the best time and place to live in the history of the universe
That depends. Healthcare, entertainment, automobiles, sure. Active kids pursuing all manner of activities, which is what this thread is about, not so much.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80817 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 7:03 pm to
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You had:
-90s Nickelodeon
-Disney Afternoon
-Disney Renaissance movies
-FOX Kids
-SNES vs. Genesis
-DOS and Amiga games (Doom, Lemmings, Turrican, etc.)
-4th and earlier 5th generation gaming
-TMNT, Power Rangers and Pogs



Ok, Madden '92 where the ambulance would run over the injured player sometimes and the crowd would go "aww aww" was pretty cool.
This post was edited on 7/7/19 at 7:05 pm
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 7:05 pm to
Yep
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