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re: We are being nickel and dimed to death.

Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:43 am to
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16046 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:43 am to
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I finally invested in a Brother LaserJet. Cost me $400 and I've had it for about 8 years now. Still runs like a champ.


Do NOT update the firmware on it. There are news reports that after a firmware update, third party toner cartridges still work, but the firmware turns off key features which make the print quality look worse when not using Brother branded toner. Brother USA denies it, of course.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:52 am to
Threads like this pop up from time to time.

Why are people still surprised by this?

We live under a capitalist system. Corporations exist for one reason: to make a profit for the stockholders. And management is incentivized to look for ways to continually increase profit.

They employ psychologists and marketers that are always looking for new ways to mentally manipulate consumers. They are very good at it.

Sometimes they get it wrong (i.e., the infamous Bud Light tranny promotion), but most of the time they succeed.

If you don't like the fact that GE figured out a way to force you to use their filter, then you can always switch to a brand that does not force you to do that.

But before GE made that decision, they did market research and found out that they would still make more money even though they might piss off a few loyal customers. It is a risk they were willing to take, and it is most likely paying off for them, or they would stop.

Your choices are:

1 - switch to a different brand of refrigerator
2 - organize a boycott of GE
3 - accept it and move on

Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:54 am to
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Do NOT update the firmware on it. There are news reports that after a firmware update, third party toner cartridges still work, but the firmware turns off key features which make the print quality look worse when not using Brother branded toner. Brother USA denies it, of course.


Thanks. I'll check into that. I am, in fact, using 3rd party toner.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24834 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:03 am to
I’ve been drinking tap water exclusively for decades and have no health issues. I’m sure filtered water is like hand sanitizer in that it prevents your body from dealing with foreign things like it’s made to do
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1583 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:13 am to
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How about a $500 registration fee at a private high school...every year. What the hell is that money for?


That $500 has 2 main purposes from my understanding.

1. Reduces number of less desirable applicants, the school likely accepts a number of voucher students. If parents have to scrape up $500 to apply, only the serious ones will make the effort.
2. Reduces the "official" tuition cost.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24078 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:13 am to
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I’ve been drinking tap water exclusively for decades and have no health issues. I’m sure filtered water is like hand sanitizer in that it prevents your body from dealing with foreign things like it’s made to do


Yeah I don’t care about water out of the fridge but I still want the ice maker to work
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16046 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:15 am to
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tap water exclusively for decades and have no health issues

Americans that insist on bottled water at home have never lived in a place where the water isn't actually safe. Even the shitty sulfuric water in Northern Indiana that smelled like eggs didn't kill me. It's fine.
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1583 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:27 am to
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Ok. I can understand your overall point, however it’s your fridge. A device you use everyday for years. I myself don’t mind the higher price for such an important fixture in my home. Just saying.


I think you still missed the point. He's talking about the company decision to force purchasing their branded filter at multiple times the cost of a comparable off-branded filter. The filter is not better, different or more efficient than others. It was ONLY to force you to buy their marked up filter, which they happen to offer a subscription service for!
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16672 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:29 am to
quote:

Got a new fridge. Finally time to replace the filter.



You're being scammed.

Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56844 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:32 am to
Our gluttonous consumer society that always has to buy the new thing, and will pay whatever prices that these companies put up are at least partially to blame.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 7:35 am
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
9855 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:50 am to
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Pop the chip off the old filter, tape it to the off brand filter so it'll line up with the reader?


This baw knows how to operate.
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
2220 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:17 am to
Thanks Grok, very informative. I never really thought about the bacteria part, but if the filter is inside of the fridge at 34 degrees then that should help minimize it.
Posted by White Bear
probably
Member since Jul 2014
17615 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:18 am to
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The light on mine went from green to orange
just reset the light before the wife spots it. the filters clogged when it stops making ice or water.
Posted by White Bear
probably
Member since Jul 2014
17615 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:19 am to
quote:

You can put a simple in-line filter behind the refrigerator for much cheaper
This is the way.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5599 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:35 am to
I have a GE fridge and there's a semi-simple fix to this that allows you to use third party filters.

Find a filter bypass plug, they are like $25 on amazon. On the plug there will be a chip, mark on the fridge where the chip sits on the sensor. Take the chip out of the filter plug and tape or glue it to the spot where the sensor is located. There will be a warning that pops up that says "not filtering", but just monitor the replacements the old way by month. Having the chip there allows the system to trigger the bypass, which allows it to work and not recognize third party filters that are usually less that 1/3 the price of branded ones.

Or you can just keep the plug in and run tap water through it if you want.
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
29538 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:44 am to
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Didn’t even think about it when I did it except waiting until it was cool



shite I’m 35 years old and I STILL drink hose water. If I’m outside doing yard work why would I go all the way inside and dirty a cup when there is a perfectly good hose a few steps away.
Posted by Keith13
Member since Apr 2024
447 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:48 am to
How about I bought 4 $8.00 tickets to the LSU game through stub hub. After markup from the seller only 20$ so not terrible Stub hub adds another $100.00 in fees so the total was almost $190 for $32 bucks in tickets
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
2220 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:01 am to
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$190 for $32 bucks in tickets
This is so bad, I actually don’t believe you

But I have tried to buy a baseball parking pass for $7, which turned into $18 after fees. I decided I’d save my $18 and walk an extra 200 yards across Nicholson.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
10294 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:04 am to
I think I went at least two years with an expired filter, and I'm still alive
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:10 am to
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Is a free market still free if controlled by a handful of companies?


A handful of companies that are dick deep involved with the government due to contracts, congress investments, grants, ect ect? No, obviously not.
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