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re: Waste management CEO: “we can’t get a driver for 90k, but can get mbas for 60k all day”

Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
4625 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:40 pm to
So you're what they call a garbage man?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55689 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:45 pm to
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The avg driver probably makes $35k to $50k depending on Frontload, rear load, side load, boom truck, or Roll off.

i'm pretty sure roll off drivers are making around 25/hour in the new orleans area
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71482 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:49 pm to
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Nope, but judging by the average person I’ve interacted with them over the years it’s obviously not that difficult.


I’ll bite on this. As a non traditional I’ll agree it’s not that difficult. I’ll also say cheating and technology is certainly more enhanced than what past students had. The best I did as a student is when I actually did everything and really learned it. C’s get degrees though, till grad school.
Posted by HangmanPage1
Wild West
Member since Aug 2021
1385 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:53 pm to
If a garbage truck driver makes $90k a year, I quit my job right now and go do that.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71482 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:59 pm to
Go do it. Probably early hours and long routes or short inner city with tons of trash. I think our trash service is based like 2 hours away. There’s another one but they’re not good.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35361 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 10:01 pm to
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And I can guarantee I make more money than you. It’s not particularly close either. Ask my accountant. He posts here.


Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 10:04 pm to
Yes, I guess at one time I was a garbage man or partner in a solid waste transportation company.

We started in roll offs and portable toilets. Grew into commercial front load and residential curve side service.

What got us bought out was winning a few county residential contracts.
Posted by Kingshakabooboo
Member since Nov 2012
680 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 10:45 pm to
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Somebody lied to me. Since when did garbage men start making 90k.


The guys that ride in the back and dump the cans don’t make that kind of money.
However the guys that drive the front loader trucks and go around and dump commercial dumpsters can make that or more. If they finish their route they can volunteer to go hit extra stops and get paid pretty decent. Know a guy with Republic that averages about $120k a year.
This post was edited on 3/30/23 at 11:11 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25529 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 10:46 pm to
I’d drive a garbage truck for $90K. I’d like to see benefits and leave time first. I imagine it’s less stressful than dealing with coworkers who don’t shut the frick up and rowdy kids in a school.
Posted by Kingshakabooboo
Member since Nov 2012
680 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 11:01 pm to
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Is it? Is that why 34.98% of Americans over 25 had a bachelor's degree in 2018? Less than 27% in Louisiana? Giving them out like candy I guess.


What percent of people do you think should have degrees.

If you were to list all the jobs in your city. What percent of them require a degree. I bet it’s no more than 15%. Why would 70% of the people living in your city need degrees. There would not be enough degree required jobs for all of them.

A degree is fine if you want to be in medical field, some sort of engineer, finance, law, or to teach. And I’m glad their are people that do that. But I’m also thankful there are people that want to be plumber, electricians, hvac, mechanics, construction workers. There is nothing wrong with either path.

Where the problem is with people that work retail, fast food, convenience stores thinking they should make $20 hour.
Posted by sostan
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
1064 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 11:13 pm to
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Being uneducated is not a flex.


No. But, there's an abundance of highly educated dumbasses out there.

I have a graduate degree, so I do value education.
However, being college EDUCATED does not automatically make you SMART or CAPABLE.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 11:23 pm to
So just hire MBAs, give them nice titles, and tell them to go pick the trash up.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50558 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 3:08 am to
That's because an MBA is useless without another designation of some sort.

Like "CPA."
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58868 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 3:56 am to
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That's because an MBA is useless without another designation of some sort.


That's not true.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25879 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 5:51 am to
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That's because an MBA is useless without another designation of some sort.

It’s possibly useless if you do the online program at some random college.

It’s not useless if you go to Harvard Business School.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 6:36 am to
You have to have a skill behind that MBA that is demanded.

I worked a government job for 20 yrs.
Paid the bills and put food on the table. Got a decent retirement.
It paid for my BA, technical college degree in diesel engine repair, and a MBA.

I was fortunate to work evenings on my side hustle which was garbage and then hardware store with business partners.

I made a good living where I don’t have to work anymore.
I am hanging on doing some diesel tech work training a friends son. Once that is done I will fully retire.

It not just the BA, MBA, or technical degree in diesel engine repair. I chose to stay in engine repair and kept up with industry training.

What you do with it.
Keep relevant in what you choose to do.
This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 6:37 am
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25879 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 6:40 am to
Yeah, I don’t think anyone would argue that you can be completely devoid of skill and rely on MBA coursework to fix you.

The biggest thing with a good MBA program is that you have to be pretty highly qualified to even be accepted. The coursework itself is not rocket science.
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4222 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 6:46 am to
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college


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Being uneducated is not a flex.


Not much of a correlation there.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22121 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 7:15 am to
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Jim Fish, chief executive of Waste Management, described the situation this way: “We can’t hire a truck driver to drive a trash truck for $90,000 in Houston, Texas, but I can hire an M.B.A. from a small school for $60,000, and I can get them all day long.”


I am sure they'll gladly do their monthly SWOT analysis for that kinda money.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68700 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 7:25 am to
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Being uneducated is not a flex.


Neither is being over educated.

So congrats you locked yourself away for several years and have zero social life and debt all to make less than a truck driver.
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