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re: Was Joseph Jackson really the monster made out to be in Michael?

Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:06 am to
Posted by litenin
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:06 am to
I watched the doc on Netflix recently about the big trial in early 2000s. I wondered how much Michael was abused and if his parents were aware at the time.

I’m sure Michael had good qualities and did love children in normal ways but also was an evil and delusional monster. Likely his father was the main reason he evolved in that way. You can instantly see it in Joe’s eyes and aura.
Posted by Shorts Guy
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:15 am to
He was a monster. I think it’s been well known and documented for decades now.
Posted by weagle1999
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:43 am to
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is it just Hollywood blowing things up?


It is the estate of Michael Jackson doing anything it can to not talk about pedophilia.
This post was edited on 6/21/26 at 11:45 am
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:44 am to
He was no Sweetheart.
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:56 am to
You think Michael Jackson was that screwed up for nothing?

I think the movie was pretty lenient on how he was portrayed actually.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:57 am to
Yes, he was a monster
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 12:11 pm to
He had no childhood. A Rosebud of sorts. I think most of his life was trying to recover what he never had. I think the hospital visits etc to sick kids were genuine. But somewhere along the way, he went the wrong way or put himself in positions that could easily be taken the wrong way. I suspect in some way, MJ was mentally or emotionally on the same level as those kids, so emotionally crippled he was.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

Was Joseph Jackson really the monster made out to be in Michael?
Probably worse than Michael alleged, but not as bad as Latoya recounted
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 12:28 pm to
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Was Joseph Jackson really the monster made out to be in Michael?


Naaa

That was just Human Nature
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 1:46 pm to
The stories about his awfulness have been here for decades

Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 5:41 pm to
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Probably worse than Michael alleged, but not as bad as Latoya recounted


there’s the problem with the facts right there, that was such a drugged up delusional bunch of people that their recollections have no validity
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 10:04 pm to
Marvin Gaye's dad was a control freak preacher who dressed in women's clothing every day after he got home from the church.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 10:10 pm to
That's some shiggidy right there
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:00 pm to
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By all accounts, he was a raging, abusive a-hole.


but hey, he was active in his children's lives!
Posted by QJenk
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Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:44 pm to
By all accounts he was an abusive a-hole to all of his kids. This isn't just Internet rumors. Multiple of his kids have all verified this. It's not really debatable.

You could maybe debate if his fricked up methods worked. He got all 9 of his kids a record deal and on tv. With 2 of them becoming musical superstars.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:12 am to
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He was more the monster he was made out to be in "The Jacksons: An American Dream."


Was a very good miniseries.
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:41 am to
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He had no childhood. A Rosebud of sorts. I think most of his life was trying to recover what he never had. I think the hospital visits etc to sick kids were genuine. But somewhere along the way, he went the wrong way or put himself in positions that could easily be taken the wrong way. I suspect in some way, MJ was mentally or emotionally on the same level as those kids, so emotionally crippled he was.


That's a perfect way to put it. I think MJ never had the chance to grow up. Joe's abuse, the fame, all of it stunted his emotional awareness and put him on the spectrum.

I guess I think of him like a toddler, who "loves" a puppy or kitten to death. They meant no harm, and the intention was good, but the outcome was not.

And, as an adult male, there should be consequences.
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