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re: Was Alex the Great the greatest conqueror in history?
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:38 am to Oilfieldbiology
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:38 am to Oilfieldbiology
quote:also false
Alexander fell to arse
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:49 am to cbree88
This has been a great discussion. 
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:49 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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He was the greatest Nepo baby in history. His dad did the leg work of building the roster and then he coached/played for that roster to a championship run.
He inherited a great army, but the conquering was him. He took major risks and they paid off and his acumen on the battle field was pretty legendary.
Also he was a Macedonian that became a frickin Pharoah without war. Walked into Egypt and the Siwa Oasis and they made him their God. That's badass.
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:51 am to cbree88
I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, and most ruthless champion there's ever been. There's no one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No, I'm Alexander, he's no Alexander. I'm the best ever! There's never been anybody as ruthless! I'm Sonny Liston, I'm Jack Dempsey. There's no one like me. I'm from their cloth. There's no one that can match me. My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart! I want to eat his children! Praise be to Allah!
Mike Tyson
Mike Tyson
Posted on 5/5/26 at 10:19 am to Kafka
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Alex the Great
Ellick the Great.
Posted on 5/5/26 at 10:25 am to Ghost of Colby
And didn't he conquer some of India? That was never a Christian stronghold at any point.
Posted on 5/5/26 at 10:35 am to blueboy
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they don’t still teach Philip’s tactics at West Point. They do teach Alexander’s.
What tactics are they teaching from 2,500 years ago?
This post was edited on 5/5/26 at 10:36 am
Posted on 5/5/26 at 10:36 am to Cosmo
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Genghis Khan
conquered so much that then missing farmers changed the climate as the earth returned to what it was when uninhabited
Posted on 5/5/26 at 10:42 am to Globetrotter747
West Point, for example, specifically teaches his hammer and anvil tactic as well as his points for adapting to different terrains and how to endure prolonged campaigns.
A lot of academies do entire sections on Alexander.
A lot of academies do entire sections on Alexander.
Posted on 5/5/26 at 10:44 am to blueboy
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Alexander's tactics and strategies are still taught at West Point and elsewhere.
Could you expand on this? Interested to hear which strategies these are
Posted on 5/5/26 at 10:49 am to blueboy
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they don’t still teach Philip’s tactics at West Point. They do teach Alexander’s.
Not sure what that has to do with recognizing that Phillip II walked so Alexander could run, but OK...
Posted on 5/5/26 at 10:54 am to cbree88
Posted on 5/5/26 at 11:14 am to DesScorp
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Owlfan nailed it. Alexander spread Greek throughout the Near East and Central Asia, and Greek was the language which spread Christianity.
He built roads also. Travel became much easier. How else would the word spread?
Posted on 5/5/26 at 11:20 am to cbree88
Prime Napoleon is always #1. All these other greats started out with massive advantages and were often fighting clearly inferior adversaries
For 10 years Napoleon was fighting coalitions of his equals and handing their asses to them nearly every time.
The only argument against Napoleon is the (what turned out to be) very stupid decisions he made at the end and decision making is a part of warfare.
But the actual fighting part he's undisputed GOAT.
For 10 years Napoleon was fighting coalitions of his equals and handing their asses to them nearly every time.
The only argument against Napoleon is the (what turned out to be) very stupid decisions he made at the end and decision making is a part of warfare.
But the actual fighting part he's undisputed GOAT.
Posted on 5/5/26 at 11:48 am to BilJ
quote:Don't know about gay dudes, the vast majority of men aren’t gay. So I stand by my statement while folks are alive that Poon is the greatest conqueror and then the Grim Reaper eventually shows up and bats his 1000 irregardlessly.
gay dudes don't fall to poon....Father Time is literally undefeated, so can't be second
So alive folks: Poon
Dead Folks: Thanatos
Posted on 5/5/26 at 1:17 pm to CatfishJohn
quote:
He inherited a great army, but the conquering was him.
How does this not align with what I said?
Inherited his army=Nepo Baby
The conquering was all him =Took the roster and went on championship run.
Posted on 5/5/26 at 1:21 pm to MikeD
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Could you expand on this? Interested to hear which strategies these are
I'm not sure about what is taught today but I know a one of Alexander's best tactics was hammer and anvil. He'd press one side of the front hard to break through and flank the opposition and squeeze them with his army on both sides.
Posted on 5/5/26 at 1:24 pm to DesScorp
Thanks bro
Posted on 5/5/26 at 1:48 pm to blueboy
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Because the generals who built it were still alive and fighting the endless campaign. When Subutai died, the expansion stopped and the decline began.
This is just flat wrong. Most notably, China was conquered after Subutei died. You can see a graphic here (Subutei died in 1248). Note how the empire gets bigger for another 30 years.
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Also, Subutei conquered on his own more territory than Alexander, and Genghis Khan was his boss and the creator and organizer of the nation that produced the army Subutei led, as well as several other armies.
quote:
Massive oversimplification, and again, Alexander's tactics and strategies are still taught at West Point and elsewhere.
The question was greatest conqueror not greatest general. Empires are built by logistics, not just tactics. The Mongol Empire was bigger and lasted longer. And its military strategies are also taught in military schools. So what.
And, again, Genghis Khan started from zero, not with an already excellent and overpowered military.
In conclusion, if anyone is jacking off to YouTube military history/ a guy who thinks he's an expert because he listened to a podcast, it's you my guy.
This post was edited on 5/5/26 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 5/5/26 at 2:00 pm to thedisciple315
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Prime Napoleon is always #1.
This.
People typically rank Alexander at or near the top because he was undefeated in the field and conquered a vast swath of territory. However, Alexander has the historically enviable position of having died young and not living long enough to screw it all up. And despite being undefeated in the field, he only commanded in 10 battles during his short but memorable career. And as other people had said, Alexander was commanding an army that his father built.
Meanwhile, Napoleon built and commanded his own armies. He commanded armies in over 60 battles and won all but seven of them. Had he died prematurely, like Alexander, sometime in 1809, he would have been remembered indisputably as the greatest battlefield commander of all-time. However, he lived long enough to screw it all up. He got his armies bogged down in Spain and invaded Russia (a big no no).
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