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re: Voters rejected a 1-cent sales tax in 2023 to give Livingston Parish teachers a raise
Posted on 5/18/26 at 1:59 pm to Roy Curado
Posted on 5/18/26 at 1:59 pm to Roy Curado
quote:
Guess what happens when investors (tax payers) don't invest in companies (government)?
This is a stupid fricking analogy and you know it.
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Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:00 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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How do you gauge that?
Same way you evaluate every other employee in the country
Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:00 pm to yellowfin
quote:
Same way you evaluate every other employee in the country
How?
Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:01 pm to Roy Curado
Don't care kid...your little names and labels don't have an effect on me.
Feel free to debate...or not.
There are great teachers, and some work relentlessly, and some....not so much.
75% of them dgaf and just are collecting checks
Feel free to debate...or not.
There are great teachers, and some work relentlessly, and some....not so much.
75% of them dgaf and just are collecting checks
Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:02 pm to toosleaux
The top five states for average teacher salaries are:
Maryland: $61,254
Hawaii: $59,222
New York: $57,919
California: $57,193
Alaska: $54,655
Maryland: $61,254
Hawaii: $59,222
New York: $57,919
California: $57,193
Alaska: $54,655
Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:02 pm to Oilfieldbiology
Job performance
Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:05 pm to ChatGPT of LA
quote:
75% of them dgaf and just are collecting checks
My issues with your statement was “the most” part of it. In my experience of being around teachers all my life, there are a lot of bad teachers, but the vast majority try to be really good at their job and put in significant extra work after school hours and on the weekend.
You and I agree that it needs to be much easier to fire bad teachers and it should be much easier to raise the pay of good teachers.
I have no clue how to measure than though as I used to believe a simple standardized test pre and post course of the students could help determine that. However, after what I’ve seen these past few years I’m not so sure students wouldn’t bomb the exit exam just to make their teachers’ look worse and get lower pay/fired.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:06 pm to yellowfin
quote:
Job performance
How is that measured? Standardized test scores? Graded observations? Parental and student feedback?
Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:07 pm to Roy Curado
quote:
Guess what happens when investors (tax payers) don't invest in companies (government)?
Oh oh I know... Can I answer? They get restructured.. Not a bad idea.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:08 pm to toosleaux
when they stop sleeping with the kids every other day
Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:09 pm to toosleaux
Quit inviting out of state Medicaid freeloaders, leaving taxpayers on the hook after federal dollars dry up. Louisiana needs to put harsh work restrictions on any kind of aid and run the freeloaders to another state.
Then slash the budget to nothing and give taxpayers a break, lower the sales tax, etc. Louisiana has a per capita budget larger than states 3 times our population. That is due to all the freeloading, gold-bricking fraudsters Louisiana invites to the state.
Then slash the budget to nothing and give taxpayers a break, lower the sales tax, etc. Louisiana has a per capita budget larger than states 3 times our population. That is due to all the freeloading, gold-bricking fraudsters Louisiana invites to the state.
This post was edited on 5/18/26 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:15 pm to DoUrden
quote:
The top five states for average teacher salaries are:
Maryland: $61,254
Hawaii: $59,222
New York: $57,919
California: $57,193
Alaska: $54,655
All of which rank high on the list of states with the most expensive cost of living.
Maryland - 7th highest cost of living
Hawaii - 2nd highest
New York - 4th highest
California - highest
Alaska - 13th highest
Meanwhile, Louisiana actually ranks 5th lowest for cost of living
Source: Bureau of Economic Analysis
Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:19 pm to toosleaux
quote:and 50th at teaching the kids
What is a viable path for teachers to get a raise? Louisiana public school teachers rank 48th nationally in pay.
Sounds like they are over paid
Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:21 pm to toosleaux
Frick them teachers, and kids.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:23 pm to Chuck Barris
quote:it would need an overhaul to become ‘minimally functioning’ at this point with how dysfunctional it is
in order to preserve a minimally functioning school system.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:25 pm to yellowfin
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Job performance
Only way I would accept a job as a teacher if my pay was tied to student performance would be if schools and teachers were empowered to actually remove bad behavior from their classroom. I would gladly sign a waiver to allow 24/7 recording of the classroom so that parents can see how abhorrent some of their kids' behavior is.
Some of you must not have an educator in your lives. These classrooms aren't filled with model students eager to learn for the day.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:29 pm to Baers Foot
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Only way I would accept a job as a teacher if my pay was tied to student performance would be if schools and teachers were empowered to actually remove bad behavior from their classroom. I would gladly sign a waiver to allow 24/7 recording of the classroom so that parents can see how abhorrent some of their kids' behavior is.
Some of you must not have an educator in your lives. These classrooms aren't filled with model students eager to learn for the day.
I've had some version of this typed up trying to reply for 10 minutes.
Every parent should have to spend an entire school day shadowing a teacher once a year.
I like the idea of recording of the classroom. I like the idea of actually documenting and punishing kids for their behavior. I'd like it if the admins were actually held accountable. None of that will happen though.
ETA: Fire about 40% of administration employees and give that money back to the teachers.
This post was edited on 5/18/26 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:31 pm to toosleaux
In EBPRSS since 2021:
Administrator pay has rose 17.2% while teacher pay has only rose 5%, much of that from state mandated raises rather than local district-funded increases. Specific roles like directors and coordinators rose 20%.
Administrator pay has rose 17.2% while teacher pay has only rose 5%, much of that from state mandated raises rather than local district-funded increases. Specific roles like directors and coordinators rose 20%.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:34 pm to slidingstop
quote:Let's put all this to bed with a simple question: If being a school teacher is an easy, overpaid job with no performance standards where you're constantly on paid vacation... why can't districts find enough people willing to do the job?
yeah, like getting two or three months off in the middle of the year? two to three weeks at Christmas? Spring break, mardi gras and never having to work for a month strait ever? There isn't one month in the school year where everyone is expected to report to the school for a full four weeks. That aint building any sympathy from the people taxed (pun intended) with paying for these educational systems.
Is that a problem you'd expect to have when hiring for an easy, overpaid, super-secure job with a ton of paid vacation?
Why are they constantly lowering standards for being in the classroom and begging retirees to come back?
You aren't really disagreeing with me. You're arguing against the law of supply and demand.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 2:35 pm to slidingstop
You must not have a teacher in the family. I promise you their day doesn't end at 3 pm and all summer, they're doing nothing. My wife takes a few weeks off and then starts prepping for the next year. All those breaks, yeah, she's working on getting papers graded, projects tidied up, and grades submitted. It's not a cake walk. In fact, my job (engineer) is a lot easier than what she had to do (math teacher, STEM teacher).
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