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re: Vietnam War: Mistake or not
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:32 pm to Sam Quint
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:32 pm to Sam Quint
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You're real dumb.
Ask the 100 million murdered by Soviet and CCP communism......
Europe is dead, they gave it away to third world immigrants, its sad.
This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 6:33 pm
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:33 pm to Strannix
It's not mutually exclusive.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:34 pm to BabyTac
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Every war is a mistake
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:34 pm to Reservoir dawg
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:34 pm to JodyPlauche
Smedley is the GOAT
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:36 pm to Sam Quint
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It's not mutually exclusive.
Your lack of second order thinking is sad, even Patton knew the truth its why he was killed.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:38 pm to Strannix
So your position is that we should have left the Nazis and Imperial Japan in power? Give me a yes or no answer, please.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:41 pm to TutHillTiger
I was in high school and if I remember correctly they would put up body counts for us and for the commies. I think the goal was to kill 10 commies for every American and win when the commies got tired of being killed. Seemed like a stupid strategy.
We couldn't bomb certain sites in North Vietnam because the ensuing starvation would be inhumane. We fought with one hand behind our back.
My take after it was over is, if you're not willing to do what it takes to win, don't get into it.
We couldn't bomb certain sites in North Vietnam because the ensuing starvation would be inhumane. We fought with one hand behind our back.
My take after it was over is, if you're not willing to do what it takes to win, don't get into it.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:41 pm to tarzana
Ali was a conscientious objector but ha no problem making his career out of fighting. I call BS.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:41 pm to Sam Quint
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So your position is that we should have left the Nazis and Imperial Japan in power? Give me a yes or no answer, please.
You prefer the Cold War and China now? They are our biggest threat ever. Absolutely
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:42 pm to Kafka
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The Tet Offensive, the turning point of the war, was in fact a military failure for NV Giap & other NV generals were flabbergasted to see the US Media portray it as a success
fricking incredible (in a bad way) what a propaganda hit our own media did to us.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:43 pm to Kafka
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Giap & other NV generals were flabbergasted to see the US Media portray it as a success
And look where we are now.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:44 pm to Strannix
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You prefer the Cold War and China now? They are our biggest threat ever. Absolutely
So, further, you believe that Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan controlling the ENTIRE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD is preferable to the Cold War and modern day China?
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:45 pm to Oilfieldbiology
The media has always been Bolshevist controlled.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:46 pm to TutHillTiger
False flag to kick it off, so big waste imo. The soldiers were pawns to the global cabal.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:49 pm to Sam Quint
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So, further, you believe that Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan controlling the ENTIRE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD is preferable to the Cold War and modern day China?
What makes you think they would have?
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:50 pm to TutHillTiger
Mistake. Because of Vietnam, the liberals took over the universities and eventually turned them into the hubs of leftist indoctrination. Gone are the liberal arts schools that challenged thinking and fostered the development of minds. Now we have group think and Marxist ideology permeating mass culture.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:54 pm to OWLFAN86
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considering the geopolitical events at the time the United States is right to pick up where France was unable the problem was We let the politicians fight it and not the generals
We had won the war but the North Vietnamese Russians and Chinese knew that if they just kept up the pressure that the politics back in America would shake our country's will to win
And the way we treated the returning vets was absolutely shameful
well said owlie...
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:54 pm to TutHillTiger
Hell no, it was no mistake. We had to stop what was then being called the fallen domino method of commies taking over the world. And we did. I think the Vietnam War was a big success as was the Afghan war. After Vietnam the commies were stopped cold. And time would allow the west to prove the superiority of free markets. That time was bought by the Vietnam War.
Similarly, in Afghanistan, we destroyed the safe haven of al-Qaeda and occupied it for 20 years. Deprived of safe training grounds they could not recruit and train the armies of assholes who would blow up everything. These 20 years allowed the West to have relative peace while the revolutionary generation of nutballs grew too old for fighting.
Similarly, in Afghanistan, we destroyed the safe haven of al-Qaeda and occupied it for 20 years. Deprived of safe training grounds they could not recruit and train the armies of assholes who would blow up everything. These 20 years allowed the West to have relative peace while the revolutionary generation of nutballs grew too old for fighting.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:59 pm to upgrade
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Total mistake. The domino effect was not real.
I hear that from people, and yet after we left and stopped supporting the South Vietnamese, what happened?
South Vietnam fell to communism. Laos fell to communism. Cambodia fell to communism. Vietnam was all in both countries. The communists of SE Asia finally ran out of steam at the Thai border.
Sounds like dominos falling.
Perhaps if we had not forced them to fight for so long and they had not lost so many men, communism might have continued it's spread to Thailand, Burma, and threatened more countries.
I do wonder if we could have avoided the whole thing by not backing the French when they tried to restore their colony. Failing that, if you are going to fight, then fight. Don't do it in a half-arse manner. Ho came to the table after we bombed the crap out of them.
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