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re: Video shows man forcibly removed from United flight from Chicago to Louisville

Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:58 am to
Posted by flyAU
Member since Dec 2010
24901 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:58 am to
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Overbooking a plane is horseshite.


Hell no, I have over $1600 in credits because of this. Love seeing an oversold flight.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:01 am to
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frick that and frick you. No one should be physically removed from a plane if they paid for a ticket and checked in and boarded on time. Considering the authorities were called in, I'd say this is an excellent opportunity to change regulations on what airlines are allowed to put in their contracts.


First. Chill out. That's how you get removed from the plane.

Second. The vast majority of these overbooking situations come from equipment swaps and other flight delays. Not from just selling too many seats. United averaged 0.45 IDB's in 2016. That's 10 passengers out of the nearly 250,000 they transport daily.
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:04 am to
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No. United overbooked by 4 passengers, they needed to have 4 get off for United crew to have their seats. No one volunteered..United randomly chose 4..the dude getting escorted off was 1 of 4 chosen.

Shitty luck.


No, that's shitty business. You keep raising the price until someone takes it. Fact. You don't force someone off a plane because you overbooked. Pretty ridiculous and another reason United is terrible.
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6825 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:05 am to
quote:

frick that and frick you. No one should be physically removed from a plane if they paid for a ticket and checked in and boarded on time. Considering the authorities were called in, I'd say this is an excellent opportunity to change regulations on what airlines are allowed to put in their contracts.


Wipe away your tears and write your congressman if you have a problem with it.

Those are the rules.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:05 am to
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No, that's shitty business. You keep raising the price until someone takes it. Fact. You don't force someone off a plane because you overbooked. Pretty ridiculous and another reason United is terrible.



Yeah, I don't know why they stopped at $800 before removing. Especially to get a necessary crew to SDF.
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:07 am to
I've heard upwards of 1500 or so before. I was one person away from 1200 recently on Delta and would have gotten home 3 hours later but they didn't need me. If they truly stopped at 800, that's on United. Can't believe they would do this knowing the backlash that would come from it.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:09 am to
Agreed. I think UA is once again getting a bad rap for people not understanding how these things work. But stopping at $800 for a crew issue was their problem.
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
18463 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:12 am to
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dressed sloppy


Wow, something tells me that you are also not a doctor.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:12 am to
I've never been quick enough to accept these things. I always have my hand ready to shoot up once the offer gets a little bit better but someone always grabs it before me.

I think I might be quicker on the trigger next time, especially if its work. I can work from anywhere if I have my computer.

Give me $500 and a hotel or 4 hour wait and I'll be happy as hell. That's a round trip vacation to see my siblings in DC or Portland.



Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26325 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:17 am to
Overbooking planes should be illegal unless its clearly stated as a "stand-by" ticket. I wouldn't mind a "no cancellations/reschedules within 48 hours" policy or paying a few bucks more to make sure I had a guaranteed spot. And if someone wants to buy a stand-by ticket to save a few bucks, then they know the risk they're taking. Nothing like fricking up a vacation by having an airline bump you to a later flight or next day on a ticket you had bought months ago because the POS airline overbooked.
Posted by okietiger13
From Sea to Shining Sea
Member since Jan 2007
10283 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:20 am to
United's new seating arrangements.

Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:29 am to
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Agreed. I think UA is once again getting a bad rap for people not understanding how these things work. But stopping at $800 for a crew issue was their problem

UA could solve this problem by not overbooking. Just a thought.
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9976 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:29 am to
They should have said that the whole plane needed to deboard because of a mechanical issue. Then said, "just kidding", "first ### that get back on get to keep their seats".

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:32 am to
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UA could solve this problem by not overbooking. Just a thought.



This flight may not have even been overbooked. But again, IDB situations are extremely rare and no airline, including JetBlue, are exempt.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:34 am to
Seeing this after the week of travel I had with another airline, I think I safely say frick all airlines.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:36 am to
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This flight may not have even been overbooked. But again, IDB situations are extremely rare and no airline, including JetBlue, are exempt.


Ok, but they sold tickets to a passenger knowing that theres a possibility they couldn't fulfill it, right? They even justify it by including weasel legalese in the carrier contract.

So if they had a policy against overbooking, you agree that this could have been avoided?
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 11:40 am
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:37 am to
Yep. Give the $800 and a rent a car and I'm set.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:40 am to
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So if they had a policy against overbooking, you agree that this could have been avoided?



Nope. They could have sold exactly the number of seats available and still had this issue of needing to get a crew to SDF.


I'd argue what JetBlue does is worse. Advertising that they don't oversell, but due to equipment swaps and WX/MX delays, end up in VDB and IDB situations like this one.
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 11:41 am
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66495 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:40 am to
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Wow, something tells me that you are also not a doctor.



why would I want to be a doctor. hospitals are gross
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30308 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:40 am to
Next time somebody tells that Chinaman to get off a plane I bet he by God gets off the damn plane.
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