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re: Video of SS sniper at time of the shooting

Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:29 am to
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52732 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:29 am to
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Should have engaged sooner

He was doing his job, cleanup crew.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 6:30 am
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12432 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:34 am to
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I’m just curious why people think they can tell those guys were firing shots in that video when they clearly weren’t. No conspiracy theorist here. Just speaking specifically to the comments made about this video.


Didn’t the one bbc interview say the snipers he was waving at couldn’t see the shooter from their angle due to the slopes of the roof or something similar?

Could that be these guys watching waiving arms in the crowd but not having the angle?
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
10619 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:36 am to
Somebody has to answer why an elevated location within 150-200 yards and in clear sight of the former and future president of the United States was left unsecured.

There are only 2 options. Complete incompetence or coordination.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
10619 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:44 am to
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Let's assume the conspiracy theories are true and it was a set up. How fricking stupid would it be to assassinate Trump? Any candidate that runs in his place is going to smoke the dems. And if you miss, you now make it nearly impossible to beat Trump. Which is the situation we're now in. He's going to be our next president


Trump is a threat to the Deep State. They can’t control him. Of course they want him off the chess board. Maybe this event will start to open a few more eyes.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
32218 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:51 am to
Why not both
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
4585 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:54 am to
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Conspiracy theorists will presume something sinister was going on,


This is true and God help us if the assassin would have been an inch or two over because it would be bad. Right now. There would be well armed people wanting explanations but pretty much already having their minds made up ...

Personally I m at the point of wanting a legit answer as to how some one can get a direct angle on Trump and do so from a quasi protected spot ( yes I know that they ultimately killed him in that spot BUT he got there undetected - except by some people that went in the the rally crowd.- and got shot(s) off first)
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
10619 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:00 am to
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3155 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:14 am to
quote:

SoloTiger
Somebody has to answer why an elevated location within 150-200 yards and in clear sight of the former and future president of the United States was left unsecured.

There are only 2 options. Complete incompetence or coordination.


Being that word is leaking that Team Trump had been requesting more SS agents, and Bidens DHS repeatedly denied the requests, I'm going to go with......both.
Posted by HattiesburgTiger5439
Hattiesburg ms
Member since Sep 2023
932 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:18 am to
SS dont have to wait for orders to shoot!! Jesus Christ
Posted by theballguy
Bama Park
Member since Oct 2011
28143 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:34 am to
Huh?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23291 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:55 am to
I’m not prior anything, but I would guess that SS just leads this but local snipers work it also. My guess is each sniper team is given a certain place to sit and a specific sector to scan. It’s certainly likely they overlap. But those sniper teams would be set up early enough they would know anyone in their area, likely have some boots on the ground to investigate anything suspicious.

The shots sound in the video maybe delayed, so matching the video with the shots maybe not be perfectly possible.

Those guys were absolutely aimed at that area, no idea if they saw something suspicious or not without watching a longer video prior to the shots. But they sure seemed to be pointing in the almost exact direction the entire time.

I don’t know what it takes to shoot but it can’t be easy because it would happen routinely, as said there are likely suspicious targets frequently at these rallies and such.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
41876 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:55 am to
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He was 100% tracking a target.



Nope, he was scanning an area for anything out of the ordinary. You can clearly see him look up from the scope to find the shooter then reposition his tripod and sight in again.

quote:

Could he have been waiting for clearance to engage?



He has clearance for any active shooter or person with a weapon pointed at whomever they are protecting with asking for authorization.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23291 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:59 am to
If the shooter was only 20 with no prior military or police training, it’s mind boggling he was able to find a building without a security detail in a mostly open field area. I’m not claiming a conspiracy as much as a lack of thorough job by SS. Its not like this guy shot through a car window from 1000 yards or was in a big city with 100s of buildings.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
18972 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:10 am to
Everything as expected minus the blue hair.

Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12385 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:28 am to
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If the shooter was only 20 with no prior military or police training, it’s mind boggling he was able to find a building without a security detail in a mostly open field area. I’m not claiming a conspiracy as much as a lack of thorough job by SS.

Hard to believe in a conspiracy, but there’s no way if you’re on Trump’s security detail you don’t get out of your vehicle and don’t immediately say, get me some bodies on that roof.
I served on PSDs in the Army for a few deployments, it’s an obvious security challenge. And easily secured.
I mean the dude is the former president and presumptive Republican nominee and current front runner.
I would hire private security if I were Trump. Several battalions should do it.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37753 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:32 am to
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Those guys were absolutely aimed at that area, no idea if they saw something suspicious or not without watching a longer video prior to the shots. But they sure seemed to be pointing in the almost exact direction the entire time.


My thought is that they were getting info over the radios by that point. He comes off the scope to find his target and then makes the shot. I disagree that they were waiting because of that
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60019 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:37 am to
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the scope limits your field of view due to magnification.


You can modify that in glass very easily, its a flick of the wrist

At that distance you don't come off to look over your gun to realign on a completely stationary target…unless maybe you've never shot before. Seeing that he is a Secret Service sniper, I'm sure he’d be experienced.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23291 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:41 am to
I’m not sure the normal protocol at all, but it seems odd to have 2 snipers both aiming their guns in a very similar area and not have one on a spotting scope with a much wider field of view and likely much better zoom ability without them knowing something was up in that area.
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
6104 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:43 am to
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SS dont have to wait for orders to shoot!! Jesus Christ


So you're saying they can execute any person at any time for any reason? If they see a kid climbing on a roof to watch a speech they just blow his brains out no questions asked?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60019 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:44 am to
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I’m not sure the normal protocol at all, but it seems odd to have 2 snipers both aiming their guns in a very similar area and not have one on a spotting scope with a much wider field of view and likely much better zoom ability without them knowing something was up in that area.


Considering randoms were 50 yards away filming this guy on their cell phones during the four minutes it took for the police to respond to a CROWD of onlookers pointing to the shooter, I’m sure any typical marksman would have had this guy in their sights.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 8:46 am
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