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Posted on 11/4/19 at 6:31 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Winner
But, I would argue the goal isn't about promoting any particular lifestyle/vice, it's about undermining cultural values and norms, and not fricking with children is a pretty huge one.
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Posted on 11/4/19 at 6:32 pm to efrad
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Okay, what's your logical argument for why sex with children will never, ever be normalized in the future, no matter what?
Because we are an evolved and advanced society that knows how wrong it is and what effects it can have on the children long-term.
Your position is "past societies fricked kids so I'm sure we will again in the future!" You don't get to question anyone's logic.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 6:41 pm to Pettifogger
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I think even pretty serious leftists are uncomfortable in "normalizing" pedophilia.
Good grief. Ya think? The partisan derangement on this site is astounding,
Posted on 11/4/19 at 6:42 pm to TH03
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Because we are an evolved and advanced society that knows how wrong it is and what effects it can have on the children long-term.
Societies can regress.
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Your position is "past societies fricked kids so I'm sure we will again in the future!" You don't get to question anyone's logic.
Nice strawman. My position is that no one can say it will never happen. I never made any claims whatsoever that it would.
This post was edited on 11/4/19 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 11/4/19 at 7:02 pm to efrad
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My position is that no one can never [sic] say it will never happen.
No one can say society will never be taken over by talking penguins.
All you're doing is arguing semantics.
It would take some catastrophic regression of society in order for the normalization of pedophilia to occur. For all intents and purposes, saying it will never happen is perfectly acceptable.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 7:02 pm to efrad
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Nice strawman. My position is that no one can say it will never happen. I never made any claims whatsoever that it would.
Your position could be applied to almost anything.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 7:08 pm to TH03
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All you're doing is arguing semantics.
No, I am saying we can't predict how future society will behave--a simple, basic point, really--and you changed my argument to "past societies fricked kids so I'm sure we will again in the future!"
That's not semantics or splitting hairs, that's you deliberately distorting my point.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 7:09 pm to Dizz
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Your position could be applied to almost anything.
Right, because it is a simple idea--you can't predict the future. I wasn't suggesting I was making some kind of mindblowing claim.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 7:20 pm to efrad
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really--and you changed my argument to "past societies fricked kids so I'm sure we will again in the future!"
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that's you deliberately distorting my point.
I'm taking it to the clear implication that was right there.
Otherwise, your argument is completely pointless.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 7:22 pm to TH03
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I'm taking it to the clear implication that was right there.
Otherwise, your argument is completely pointless.
I can see why so many people on here think you're an insufferable douchebag.
Don't you have better things to do than argue with people about points they didn't even attempt to make?
Posted on 11/4/19 at 7:24 pm to efrad
Am I taking crazy pills?
You started a pointless argument that served no purpose other than to say I can't with 100% certainty say that something won't happen in the future, solely because it happened in the past.
Now you're just melting and calling me a douchebag because I called the argument what it was, pointless.
Maybe log off and take a lap to cool off. This is absurd.
You started a pointless argument that served no purpose other than to say I can't with 100% certainty say that something won't happen in the future, solely because it happened in the past.
Now you're just melting and calling me a douchebag because I called the argument what it was, pointless.
Maybe log off and take a lap to cool off. This is absurd.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 7:38 pm to TH03
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Am I taking crazy pills?
You started a pointless argument that served no purpose other than to say I can't with 100% certainty say that something won't happen in the future, solely because it happened in the past.
Now you're just melting and calling me a douchebag because I called the argument what it was, pointless.
Maybe log off and take a lap to cool off. This is absurd.
Uh, what?
You said pedophilia can never be normalized and I said "never say never." A simple innocent thing to say in today's age of drag queen story hour at the local public library.
Your response was to build a strawman that I'm claiming "past societies fricked kids so I'm sure we will again in the future!" which is something I never remotely said. And when I point out you clearly misunderstood me, to keep the argument going you say it's just semantics and I clearly think we're headed for a kid-fricking future. Or not?
frick off troll.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 7:51 pm to Obtuse1
Wow. A more substantive political discussion on the OT than has occurred on the Poliboard in years.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 7:52 pm to northshorebamaman
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I do think we need to create some sort of path for non-offenders to seek help. Keeping them hidden in the dark isn't beneficial for anyone. Especially potential victims.
WTF is wrong with you people? How many “non offending pedos are out there? Is it enough to even worry about? These fricking animals are just like Pitt bulls. You can try all you want to give them therapy, but it’s in their nature to hurt kids. There is no curing it. Only delaying the ultimate manifestation of the animals nature.
You cannot change the nature of a human being or an animal. You can only control it. Treating their sickness as though it’s a case of psoriasis that can be controlled and managed is ridiculous and dangerous.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 7:54 pm to tigerinthebueche
What a simplistic world view.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:02 pm to Hulkklogan
It ain’t that fricking complicated Hulk. We’re not splitting atoms here or investigating string theory.
We’re talking about animals whose nature is to harm other animals- one because of its aggressive nature the other due to its sexual nature. You can’t change that. You can only control it at best. I don’t agree offering therapy is the best way to manage it.
It really is that simple.
We’re talking about animals whose nature is to harm other animals- one because of its aggressive nature the other due to its sexual nature. You can’t change that. You can only control it at best. I don’t agree offering therapy is the best way to manage it.
It really is that simple.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:04 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
Remember when homosexuals just wanted to be tolerated? So they were tolerated.
Remember when homosexuals wanted to be accepted as normal? So they were accepted as normal.
Remember when homosexuals wanted to openly serve in the military? So they were allowed to openly serve in the military.
Remember when homosexuals wanted to get married? So they were allowed to marry.
Remember when transsexuals wanted to be tolerated too? So they were tolerated.
Remember when transsexuals wanted to be accepted? So they were accepted.
Remember when transsexuals wanted to use women’s restrooms & showers? So they were allowed to use women’s restrooms and showers.
Remember when transsexuals wanted to serve in the military? So transsexuals were allowed to serve in the military.
Remember when transsexuals wanted to do storybook time for kids at local libraries? So they were allowed to do storytime for kids.
Remember when we were called crazy for talking about a slippery slope?
Remember when homosexuals wanted to be accepted as normal? So they were accepted as normal.
Remember when homosexuals wanted to openly serve in the military? So they were allowed to openly serve in the military.
Remember when homosexuals wanted to get married? So they were allowed to marry.
Remember when transsexuals wanted to be tolerated too? So they were tolerated.
Remember when transsexuals wanted to be accepted? So they were accepted.
Remember when transsexuals wanted to use women’s restrooms & showers? So they were allowed to use women’s restrooms and showers.
Remember when transsexuals wanted to serve in the military? So transsexuals were allowed to serve in the military.
Remember when transsexuals wanted to do storybook time for kids at local libraries? So they were allowed to do storytime for kids.
Remember when we were called crazy for talking about a slippery slope?
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:05 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
Couldn’t see this coming
Nope. Completely out of left field
Nope. Completely out of left field
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:09 pm to tigerinthebueche
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You can only control it.
so your suggestion of "control" is to make them stay in hiding until they actually offend and come to light via a mugshot?
If someone is having creepy thoughts I want them to seek help without being crucified. The reason I don't want them harmed is obviously because they wouldn't seek help otherwise.
This isn't difficult.
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