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re: VICE pushes to 'destigmatize' pedophilia
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:39 pm to dallastigers
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:39 pm to dallastigers
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So you have sympathy for those with urges to have sex with children?
Absolutely I do. First, I am cognizant of the fact I never made a choice to be primarily attracted to tall buxom blondes, some mix of nature and nurture made me that way. Second, a significant percentage of pedophiles were molested as children themselves which despite being able to identify with the hurt and pain still cemented their deviant desires.
None of that excuses acting on it but I still have a lot of sympathy for someone that has to live with a sexual urge like that, people simply don't choose sexual attraction.
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Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:40 pm to Darth_Vader
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It’s blind fools such as yourself that have let us this point. As society takes each successive step, accepting one abhorrent behavior which leads to accept the next, and the next, and so on until we arrive to where we’re at now. The fact you’re too dim to see this is quite sad.
Who determines what's "abhorrent" behavior? The bible? Well, I'm an atheist and so is a growing number of the population. We don't care what's written in that shite.
Obviously we all will agree that pedophilia is abhorrent. Logically speaking, no child can truly consent to the sexual activity and will not have a full grasp of what is going on if they did. So pedophilia is abhorrent because a pedophile is violating a person that cannot consent and we all view children as the picture of innocence. It also can cause immense mental damage to the victim.
What I'm getting at is your earlier post you mentioned how homosexuals lead to transsexuals, etc. But why are homosexuals bad? Why are transsexuals bad? Who decided they're bad? They're just people on this planet living their lives. The transexuals/drag book reading in libraries is to destigmatize them because they are not hurting anyone. Again, what about that is abhorrent? It's just different. Being gay or trans isn't a slippery slope to pedophilia.
This post was edited on 11/4/19 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:48 pm to TH03
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I mean, you've completely gone off tangent just to hurl insults.
I already made my point crystal clear and I don't have any further point to make. The conversation is dead except for you attempting to either refute things I never claimed in the first place, or just bringing up how pointless you think a point I made several pages ago was.
Stop being a troll and let it die.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:50 pm to efrad
You keep saying you made a point.
I said "x will never happen."
You said "x happened before so you can't say that!!"
Wonderful point made. If you don't want to keep rehashing it, just move along.
I said "x will never happen."
You said "x happened before so you can't say that!!"
Wonderful point made. If you don't want to keep rehashing it, just move along.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:53 pm to TH03
It is logical.
Also, Advocating for thought crime doesn’t equal “ I would rather stop it beforehand and not let any sympathy for those with urges get in the way.”, so replying you don’t advocate for thought crimes seems a little defensive.
You really do twist words in this thread. Why is sympathy for those with urges to sexually assault kids so important? It seems personal and a little emotional with the twisting around of words so often.
Also, Advocating for thought crime doesn’t equal “ I would rather stop it beforehand and not let any sympathy for those with urges get in the way.”, so replying you don’t advocate for thought crimes seems a little defensive.
You really do twist words in this thread. Why is sympathy for those with urges to sexually assault kids so important? It seems personal and a little emotional with the twisting around of words so often.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:55 pm to Hulkklogan
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Who determines what's "abhorrent" behavior? The bible? Well, I'm an atheist and so is a growing number of the population. We don't care what's written in that shite.
Obviously we all will agree that pedophilia is abhorrent. Logically speaking, no child can truly consent to the sexual activity and will not have a full grasp of what is going on if they did. So pedophilia is abhorrent because a pedophile is violating a person that cannot consent and we all view children as the picture of innocence. It also can cause immense mental damage to the victim.
What I'm getting at is your earlier post you mentioned how homosexuals lead to transsexuals, etc. But why are homosexuals bad? Why are transsexuals bad? Who decided they're bad? They're just people on this planet living their lives. The transexuals/drag book reading in libraries is to destigmatize them because they are not hurting anyone. Again, what about that is abhorrent? It's just different.
Thank you for posting this. It proves a point.
The problem with building a society’s moral foundation solely on the opinions of mankind is you’re building your foundation on shifting sands. Just as you say “why are homosexuals bad?” and “why are transsexuals bad?”, other people are now asking “why are pedophiles bad?”.
There is no standard now. It’s whatever we as a society want. Once your morals are whatever you want, there is no limit on what can be deemed right or acceptable. Now we’re to the point where pedos are being destiatized. This was not an overnight development out of left field. No, this was a step by step process, one step leading to the next.
And make no mistake, just as society has taken all the other steps, it will take this one as well. Since right or wrong is whatever we say it is, there is nothing to stop it. And considering there are many now who believe children as young as elementary age are mature enough to make life altering decisions as what gender they want to be, this next step that’s already underway will lead to the one after that. First comes destigmatizaion, the tolerance, and finally acceptance. Sodom and Gamorrah paled in comparison to what our society is becoming.
This post was edited on 11/4/19 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:56 pm to dallastigers
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Also, Advocating for thought crime doesn’t equal “ I would rather stop it beforehand and not let any sympathy for those with urges get in the way.”, so replying you don’t advocate for thought crimes seems a little defensive.
Um, that's exactly what thought crime is.
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You really do twist words in this thread. Why is sympathy for those with urges to sexually assault kids so important? It seems personal and a little emotional with the twisting around of words so often.
Yeah, I'm the one twisting words when you're basically outright calling me a pedophile because I feel bad for people who have to live with those urges.
I didn't twist your words at all. Stopping someone before they commit a crime just because they have the urge to commit that crime is the definition of thought crime.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:59 pm to Darth_Vader
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other people are now asking “why are pedophiles bad?”.
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Now we’re to the point where pedos are being destiatized [sic].
Who is asking or doing this?
Posted on 11/4/19 at 9:01 pm to TH03
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There's nothing wrong with feeling bad for someone who does have the urges. It's not like they chose it or want it. I'd probably kill myself if I were in that position.
At least you've got the solution for what should we do to pedophiles.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 9:02 pm to Darth_Vader
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There is no standard now. It’s whatever we as a society want
Society has ALWAYS determined the standards for living in said society.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 9:03 pm to Obtuse1
bullshite. Everything was perfectly fine before these fricking millennials.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 9:03 pm to TH03
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Who is asking or doing this?
My phone auto corrected “destigmatized” into whatever that says. As for who is doing this, the Vice article should give you your first clue. And your defense of pedos should be your second hint.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 9:04 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
Yeah? Well, they're idiots.
Must be on crack.
Must be on crack.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 9:06 pm to Darth_Vader
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the Vice article should give you your first clue
Did you actually read it? Or just the blaze article fear mongering about it so people like you will foam at the mouth at what they tell you to?
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And your defense of pedos should be your second hint.
I defended pedos where?
Posted on 11/4/19 at 9:08 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
nambla is real
vice late to the party
vice late to the party
Posted on 11/4/19 at 9:09 pm to SeeeeK
You act like only Libs suck kid or adult dick
So naive.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 9:11 pm to Obtuse1
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Society has ALWAYS determined the standards for living in said society.
And that standard always had a bedrock based on their religion. For the western world, for the past two thousand years that foundation was Judeo-Christian. This foundation meant debates like this didn’t happen because everyone accepted there was a set standard of right & wrong that, coming from God, is unchanging.
But now our society has, for better or worse, turned its back on God. You see this as good. I understand that. But you’ve got to understand there are consequences to everything, and our turning our back on God has consequences. High on that list is by removing God from the equation as the bedrock foundation of society, society no longer has any foundation. Society is free to do whatever it wants. We’ve seen this going on for the past 50+ years as more and more things that were unthinkable are now widely accepted. When there is no God, it means men make the rules. And as we see now that means the rules are ever shifting and changing.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 9:11 pm to Pettifogger
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The reality is that there are people who inherently have pedophilia feelings/urges. It's probably worth discussing how we can best get some of those people in treatment/institutions instead of having them live in the shadows and do who knows what.
I know we'd mostly prefer that they all just be dispatched from the planet, but in 2019 it's just not going to happen. So while I have no idea if the VICE article is gross or not, The Blaze jumping in to act like any discussion on the realities of this stuff is evil probably isn't helpful and probably just seeks outraged clicks.
Well said.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 9:14 pm to Sao
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You act like only Libs suck kid or adult dick
So naive.
nambla member, eh?
Posted on 11/4/19 at 9:18 pm to TH03
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Also, Advocating for thought crime doesn’t equal “ I would rather stop it beforehand and not let any sympathy for those with urges get in the way.”, so replying you don’t advocate for thought crimes seems a little defensive.
Um, that's exactly what thought crime is.
So stopping any crime beforehand is just stopping a thought crime to you.
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I didn't twist your words at all. Stopping someone before they commit a crime just because they have the urge to commit that crime is the definition of thought crime
Did I say all of this exactly or are you twisting words again?
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Yeah, I'm the one twisting words when you're basically outright calling me a pedophile because I feel bad for people who have to live with those urges.
Also I said you seemed to be taking this personally if not getting a little emotional. Where did I outright call you a pedophile? More twisting. You could just know someone with urges or have a family member with them. You keep jumping way off.
This post was edited on 11/4/19 at 9:28 pm
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