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re: Vermilion Parish teacher arrested during school board meeting

Posted on 1/10/18 at 6:07 am to
Posted by roguetiger15
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 6:07 am to
every one of those board members are a puppet to someone behind the curtain. It’s been like that for years in that parish. Jerome has actually been doing a hell of a job getting scores up and elevating that parish within the state rankings. Since day one he’s had a target on his back by basically half the board bc some outside powers feel he is a threat. There’s so many dynamics to this whole thing it really is sad all the way around
Posted by musick
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 6:21 am to
What does a superintendent have anything to do with test scores? He never steps foot in a classroom
Posted by musick
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 6:26 am to
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All those saying he has a lot on his plate...don't forget he has not one but two assistant superintendents, they aren't exactly secretaries either


And both asst supers have their own secretary as well
Posted by roguetiger15
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 6:29 am to
you're right. why even have superintendents, they don't do shite.

I understand what you're saying but its important to have great leadership at the top to create 35,000 ft goals for the parish. Once those goals are created you have to establish precedents to get there. For example, in St. Landry parish where my wife teaches their superintendent doesn't know shite about what it takes to run schools from that 35,000 ft perspective and for that reason those schools have no direction or goals to work towards. They are just meddling in mediocrity. One blatant thing that could fix the problem is, at least with her school and superintendent is updating lesson plans but the superintendent will not approve it.

In one meeting about funds dedicated to their school the superintendent pulled out the ole Obama "if you just cut your cell phone/cable bill you can afford it" line. Now you tell me if that's leadership. Having a competent/motivated leader is essential to the wellbeing of those schools bc lets face it 90 percent of principals and teachers are just out there getting a paycheck.
This post was edited on 1/10/18 at 6:36 am
Posted by musick
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 6:36 am to
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For example, in St. Landry parish where my wife teaches their superintendent doesn't know shite about what it takes to run schools from that 35,000 ft perspective and for that reason those schools have no direction or goals to work towards


I work at the slp office and visit the schools, I probably know your wife

My wife teaches here as well. Jenkins is a good super. He is brand new, and way better than the last. He is from slp, and came from the Zachary school system. He's trying to bring Zachary success to slp. The Obama line was lame, but these schools need updating and the tax bill is the only way to do it. ~$50 per year. Problem is slp citizens don't trust this SB because of the evanagline downs fiasco. They are burned and he was just trying to equate the amount of a cable bill, to building new schools, which the last school built in SLP was in 1968. I'm telling you with experience, I realize the super has a major role, but he doesn't affect test scores. That's instr specialists, teachers, supers of curriculum, instruction, etc.

This post was edited on 1/10/18 at 6:42 am
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 6:41 am to
well he doesn't have the support of teachers, at least the ones we congregate with. I hope he turns that parish around, however.

you probably do know my wife, she's at the slp office all the time getting recognition for her students test scores. and ill leave it at that before she bitches me out for talking about her on tigerdroppings.
This post was edited on 1/10/18 at 6:44 am
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 6:42 am to
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. The teacher was out of line and the incident probably saved her job.


Yeah you’re full of shite.
Posted by musick
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 6:42 am to
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This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 10:19 am
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 6:55 am to
And there still isn't a Super in this state that is teaching those lesson plans. If you don't have good teachers, you can have the greatest, loftiest goals on the planet, and they won't amount to diddly.

I don't doubt that the guy is good, but in his interview on KLFY, he came off as pompous. He spoke as if he was the sole reason for the improvements. And I realize they could have edited the interview to look that way, which is shitty journalism. But to even suggest that he is the only reason for the climb they have made is arrogant. It could have been as simple as him making a few changes that allowed the teachers to accomplish more than the previous Super allowed.

Let's not forget either, the district was already in the Top 25 percent of the state when he took over. It has elevated to another level, but it's not like he took a middle of the pack district and turned it into something great.

Hell, I've seen Vermilion Parish school products. Do they represent the whole? No. But to say that I was unimpressed would be an understatement. The fact that some of those people get out of those high schools with As and Bs in english courses is alarming. I've peer reviewed college english papers where the 3 paragraphs could have all come from different papers. Improper use or verbs. Improper sentence structure.

I'm no Shakespeare myself, but these papers weren't even high school level english, let alone college level.

Does that have anything to do with Puyau? I don't know, but a handful of those have graduated high school in the last 2 to 3 years, during his time in VP. What it tells me is they have some really good smart kids in that district, because you can't cover up poor english students on any standardized test, which I assume most of these ratings are based on.
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 7:00 am to
You and musick probably know my future wife, then. She got out of the SLP central office just a few years ago.

This post was edited on 1/10/18 at 7:02 am
Posted by Rox
Member since Oct 2010
33333 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:40 am to
Scrolled through the thread. Haven't seen much about the Superintendent's salary pre-raise.

This is from the 6/30/16 Audit of the Vermilion Parish School Board.

quote:

(18) Compensation, benefits, and other payments to Agency Head
A detail of compensation, benefits, and other payments paid to Jerome Puyau,
Superintendent, for the year ended June 30, 2016 follows:
Purpose Amount
Salary $ 111,035
Benefits - insurance 5,823
Benefits - retirement 29,202
Benefits - medicare 1,610
Cell phone 2,740
Dues 584
Travel reimbursement 1,060
Registration fees 510
Conference travel 1,441
Total $ 154,005



2016 Audit - (See Page 92 for this info)

I don't know what School Board Vermilion is comparable to so I could make a comparison.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38053 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:45 am to
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Solid example for children



my first thought as well.



lets rush out the door with the kids so they can see the arrest. WTF is wrong with people?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:56 am to
It's time to get the government out of the business of running schools.

So long the schools are "government" schools everyone feels they have the right to be accommodated and heard regarding the management of the schools.

We should take the money we now spend on schools and use it instead to issue vouchers to every family to pay for education and let people start schools to accommodate the various needs.

The teacher in this example could start her on school if she wanted.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8150 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:59 am to
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We should take the money we now spend on schools and use it instead to issue vouchers to every family to pay for education and let people start schools to accommodate the various needs.


I agree with this completely.

quote:

So long the schools are "government" schools everyone feels they have the right to be accommodated and heard regarding the management of the schools.


As long as the schools are run with taxpayer money taxpayers have a right to be heard (but not obeyed necessarily). Especially since the public is "districted" into what school they have to attend.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38053 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:00 am to
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t's the fact that a Board that is known in that area for being sketchy pushed for a raise for him before any teacher raises.



then elect different board members. This shite is so overblown. Teacher who feels underpaid wants to bitch about someone else getting a raise. Chooses the wrong place and time to bitch. Gets told as much. Is escorted out of bldg, then arrested for failure to comply, resisting, whatever. shite happens. Nex time, choose your venue properly. Oh and leave when asked.

Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12077 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:09 am to
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Cell phone 2,740


How many phones does he have??
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
18078 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:16 am to
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lets rush out the door with the kids so they can see the arrest. WTF is wrong with people?


I'll tell you what's wrong...they're a bunch of trashy overweight coonass women with the same haircuts, wearing the same tight-arse jeans, and tee-shirts to a meeting.

No wonder no one wants to listen to them.

Posted by LSUlove
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2003
617 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:19 am to
That's the issue with it though. The people had elected the board members they wanted. Then one died leaving a void. Fontana had been trying to pass this contract and raise for a while, but the board was split 4-4. When the board member of the opposing side died, instead of placing that board member's son or wife like the deceased requested and the people wanted, Fontana and his side appointed a person that would follow suit with them so they could get the contract passed.

Backstory is important here.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:25 am to
frick that. She had every right to speak at that meeting. frick Fontana and that Marshall.

I don’t have an issue with the raise or the teachers salary. My issue is with the way it all went down.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13047 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Backstory is important here.


This is the OT. You think half of these idiots care about a backstory? Half of them probably don't know or care to know a thing about Vermilion Parish.
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