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re: Vermilion Parish teacher arrested during school board meeting
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:40 am to Hold That Tiger 10
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:40 am to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:You still need to re-read what you wrote and while you are at it you need to go over my simplistic term again. I can't dumb it down much more.
I think you need to better understand how government budgets typically work.
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:44 am to Hold That Tiger 10
I'm not sure why people are arguing they "needed" the spend the money. Most school parishes have it set up that the money they get can go into a special fund to be used later. They just have to track and show where and how the money is being used.
The issue is a lot of these parishes get special grants from the state or federal government and then they feel is the time to use some of that extra money on stuff that isn't really needed at the time.
The superintendent is already the highest paid person in every school district. What they do is go to budget meetings but they do not design the budget, they have a financial team, they sign off on payroll checks, yet they don't hire anyone HR does that. The make speeches that are usually written by a teacher that was given a "bonus" to write, they meet about curriculum but usually have no clue what is being used as most parishes have someone in charge of curriculum for the different subjects.
In my experience the Superintendent is more of a figure head position that once people get into they stay well past retirement. It is a position that is hard to get into and it helps when you know the right people, some of these smaller parishes are pretty corrupt on how they handle the election of a new superintendent.
The issue is a lot of these parishes get special grants from the state or federal government and then they feel is the time to use some of that extra money on stuff that isn't really needed at the time.
The superintendent is already the highest paid person in every school district. What they do is go to budget meetings but they do not design the budget, they have a financial team, they sign off on payroll checks, yet they don't hire anyone HR does that. The make speeches that are usually written by a teacher that was given a "bonus" to write, they meet about curriculum but usually have no clue what is being used as most parishes have someone in charge of curriculum for the different subjects.
In my experience the Superintendent is more of a figure head position that once people get into they stay well past retirement. It is a position that is hard to get into and it helps when you know the right people, some of these smaller parishes are pretty corrupt on how they handle the election of a new superintendent.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:52 am to GeauxLSUBengalTigers
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You still need to re-read what you wrote and while you are at it you need to go over my simplistic term again. I can't dumb it down much more.
You are right. Should have bowed down to your vast knowledge way earlier in this thread. Carry on with your wisdom. Ill stay clear of responding to you. Im not worthy.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:55 am to Hold That Tiger 10
You are right. Should have bowed down to your vast knowledge way earlier in this thread. Carry on with your wisdom. Ill stay clear of responding to you. Im not worthy. Now you're just unnecessarily embellishing. I'll tell you what though, you're not as smart as you think you are, and your response to my example shows that.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:55 am to tduecen
I really have no clue how they handle any excess money. Im just assuming based on other government type jobs. It really is totally irrelevant to anything that has to do with this thread, being that this didn't happen over an argument of budget issues.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:56 am to GeauxLSUBengalTigers
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I'll tell you what though, you're not as smart as you think you are,
Not once did I claim to be. I know more about this actual situation than most. Thats what this thread is about. You twisted it into something else.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:04 am to yellowfin
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It depends, things like capital outlay are most definitely carried over
The agencies I've worked for spend shite all the time on computers, office equipment, etc. so they don't lose it.
They replaced shite just because. Oh you didn't use that drafting printer? No problem, here's a new one to collect dust with.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:06 am to Hold That Tiger 10
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Not once did I claim to be
Other than REPLYING to someone else about the budget issue I stayed on point as much as you by expressing my views on what should or should not have been allowed to be discussed at the school board meeting, We can agree to disagree on that, and that is fine with me. Without healthy debate it would be a boring society.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 11:08 am
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:15 am to Cowboyfan89
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The agencies I've worked for spend shite all the time on computers, office equipment, etc. so they don't lose it
You aren't wrong here. Ive been in a situation where I had a budget (government agency). I controlled the budget for the most part, unless I wanted to spend massively. Then I had to get approval.
The budget was broken down into multiple areas. I could over spend in one area, if I was under in another area. The bottom line was the most important thing.
It was absolutely a use it, or risk losing it, situation. However, in my particular case, I was pretty much working with a budget too small. So having extra to spend was never an issue. It was more an issue of NOT spending/cutting off OT to stay under.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:13 pm to Cowboyfan89
I think the poster was saying that's how it's done, followed with suggesting how it should be done.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:33 pm to ApexTiger
Nah, I don't think that's it at all.
He thinks the government functions like a business. It doesn't.
He thinks the government functions like a business. It doesn't.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:46 pm to Cowboyfan89
Fontana retiring from VPSB asap
By the sounds of that he will not finish out his term.
Not certain what it'll solve in the short term, because Fontana controls the board vote so they will be able to appoint one of his pals until the election. May not be any hot button issues to deal with as much now, being he got a raise passed for his baw.
By the sounds of that he will not finish out his term.
Not certain what it'll solve in the short term, because Fontana controls the board vote so they will be able to appoint one of his pals until the election. May not be any hot button issues to deal with as much now, being he got a raise passed for his baw.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:51 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Haha, knew that was going to happen.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 2:06 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Haha, knew that was going to happen
Not surprising. But sad that he was able to accomplish his goal before crawling out the back door. I wish he was running again, to see how his ego would take the hit of losing.
This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 1/19/18 at 2:39 pm to GeauxLSUBengalTigers
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So that's a problem. If you wouldn't have been spending when you didn't need to then you'd have that extra capital in your budget to get the extra things you needed the following year.
It doesn't work like that. Each department is given a budget. Let's say that budget is.... $100k and at the end of the year the department has only spent $50k. You are not going to get a $150k budget for the next year. Since your department only spent half of it's budget, it will be seen as that department doesn't need $100k and since they only spent half of it, they will only be given a $60k budget then the money that wasn't used will be applied to another department's budget.
The problem with that is, while only $50k was needed the past year, things come up and the following year more money might be needed so you have to show that you are using the budget you are given so that you will get the same amount the following year.
Part of the job in the department I was in, was to track down landowners of abundant properties. At the time the parish started to get aggressive with identifying properties that had mountains of trash, old crack houses (a lot of times an old person dies and have no family who lives close by so after awhile junkies would take over). We use to have to identify the property owner and if that person passed away then we had turn that property over to a lawyer so they go through the legal process of identifying a next of kin, etc so that game out of our budget.
It was in the middle of the year when they decided to start being aggressive on this so that year we didn't spend nearly as much money as we were going to need for the upcoming year.. So in order to make sure we had the budget to pay for the legal fees for all the properties that needed to be turned over to the lawyer, we had to spend it.. So we ended up getting new computers, etc just so that we could spend money to make sure we get the same budget for the following year.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 2:48 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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the single issue that raised its dirty head on each vote the Board took and that was a contract for the superintendent. I made a promise to several board members and to our system that I would stay in office until the superintendent received a contract. I kept my promise.
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One of my favorite people in history is General Douglas MacArthur. He stepped out of the public stage repeating an old West Point saying. He said, “Old soldiers never die, they just fade away.”
frick that arrogant bastard
This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:07 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Wasn't there video posted here of a man acting far worse than her at one of those meetings, and they didn't remove him?
They were afraid he might whip their asses
Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:26 pm to tgrbaitn08
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frick that arrogant bastard
Would you expect anything less? Dudes a clown. I wonder if he is close to as powerful as he acts.
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