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re: Vermilion Parish teacher arrested during school board meeting

Posted on 1/9/18 at 10:02 pm to
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4400 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 10:02 pm to
Yes, but it's bad optics when you basically take a raise that could pay for one more teacher, after they don't get a raise.

How does LA work? Is this his full-time job? Here it's a part-time job, but you are basically describing the superintendent position, where the school board are the elected figureheads.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20611 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 10:05 pm to
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I don't know if that's correct in Louisiana. I remember a tax on the ballot in Lafayette years back that was for teacher raises for our parish.



There is a local component, but its so low it shouldn't even be considered.

Here is Livingston Parish's salary schedule: LINK

A teacher with a bachelor's degree with 15 years experience makes roughly $50k.
Add about $2k for a master's degree.

The local supplement is $400. It increases to a max of $1000 for veterans teachers. So at most, $1000 of $52000 is being paid for by local government. Sure this can be raised, but even a 50% raise would give most teachers $200 a year.

In other words, local school raises are meaningless.

Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33195 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 10:05 pm to
It's a full time job.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20611 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 10:08 pm to
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Yes, but it's bad optics when you basically take a raise that could pay for one more teacher, after they don't get a raise.



Superintendent is a full time 12 month job with nothing but headaches. Its not an easy 6 figure job by any means.

Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98953 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 10:12 pm to
What's the reason for the discrepancy between parishes then?
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 10:13 pm to
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I refuse to believe a husband would have let his wife do that.

You sound like a muslim.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20611 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 10:15 pm to
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What's the reason for the discrepancy between parishes then?



There is barely one. Higher tax revenue districts usually pay a little more, but not much. Most Southern states have a delta of about $2500 at most.

Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122172 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 10:18 pm to
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Many are making it a black versus white thing,


People are so simple. At no point in all of this have I thought about anything to do with race. But then again, there are many times when something happens and race has nothing to do with it, but just because it involves people of different races, people make it a race issue. People really do see what they want.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98953 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 10:20 pm to
Looks like about 4K difference between Livingston and Acadia starting out.

LINK
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 10:23 pm to
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Anc

Well I read up on what you said. Damn. She didn’t actually have an argument with them, did she? I understand their anger though, and it was still a bad arrest.

It is ridiculous that teacher salaries are determined by the legislature, yet the school districts can vote themselves raises. Maybe this circus will bring change.

Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13047 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 10:34 pm to
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The local school board doesn't have the right to give teacher raises. That comes from the state legislature.


So teacher salaries are governed by state legislature, but not Superintendent salaries? Sounds like a load of shite to me.

And as far as there not being much discrepancy between districts...well, I'm just going to call bullshite there. Salary schedules vary wildly across the state. Caddo Parish lists a base at Step 30 (their max listed) as $59k, while Vermilion is $53k at Step 45 (their max listed), or $48k at Step 30. St James at Step 25 is $61k.

So how does the base salary vary so wildly across districts? What is being set by the state if not the base?
This post was edited on 1/9/18 at 10:36 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122172 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 10:36 pm to
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ven $140k isn't enough. He's running a $100 MM operation, not a Burger King. If he is successful (schools aren't falling apart, students are achieving, goals are being met), he should be rewarded.


- He isn't generating a profit.
- The school board members handle the day to day issues the public has.


I can go on, but if $140k isn't enough, I would say anything more than another $30k would be too much.

If schools are not falling apart, students are achieving, goals are being met, he is doing his job. Better yet, if those things are happening, does the SI get all the credit or does the principal? The one who is at the school running the day to day operation?
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
9280 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 11:27 pm to
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He's a school board member, they get paid like $8k a year

Not even sure they get a retirement


I don’t buy this for a minute. We’re talking about corrupt Louisiana and all here.
Posted by toddzilla
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Nov 2012
1596 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 11:33 pm to
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He's a school board member, they get paid like $8k a year


On paper...
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25483 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 4:48 am to
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Superintendent is a full time 12 month job with nothing but headaches. Its not an easy 6 figure job by any means


The raise isn't even the main issue of the whole thing. Im sure the superintendent is underpaid, just as the teachers are. The superintendent deserves a raise, just like the teachers do for the improvement of scores.

The main issue people have is that the entire board obviously didn't feel this new contract was warranted, for whatever the reasons may be. It was a 5-3 vote. Now, here comes the problems...

The board recently had a board member die. That board members son wanted to replace his father until the election. Fontana and crew appointed (not elected) a person into that board members seat, after denying the son. He put someone in the seat that would vote with him. So, the contract goes on the agenda and BAM he gets his 5-3 vote, and a raise for his buddy.

Does that not seem corrupt to you a little? Thats really the problem behind the surface here...its not so much the raise.
Posted by canteen
Member since Dec 2017
779 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 4:56 am to
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They ended up passing his extension for 3 years and 38k raise according to kadn website. I don’t know if that 38k is over 3 years but either way that seems a bit much


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And it seems a car for his use as well according to comments on KATC fb page




im running for a school board spot
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25483 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 4:59 am to
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im running for a school board spot


Its only the superintendent that gets that kind of money. Just become SI and get your baws to run for the board. Then they can vote you whatever raise you wish.
Posted by canteen
Member since Dec 2017
779 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 5:00 am to
hell yes

i got my retirement plan now
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
16382 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 5:41 am to
Just showed the clip on Fox News
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82744 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 6:01 am to
All those saying he has a lot on his plate...don't forget he has not one but two assistant superintendents, they aren't exactly secretaries either
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