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Vaccinations for kids? Related to Autism?

Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:18 pm
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:18 pm
First off, I'm too old to still have children, so this is not a question that I have to decide, but I think it's a topic for those of you having children to consider. Twenty-two years ago, I considered anyone who questioned children's vaccinations a quack, and therefore had my kid vaccinated.

I currently have a few friends with children with autism, and obviously it's a life-long issue for the child and the parents. One specifically tells me that his son showed no symptoms of autism prior to vaccinations.

As some of you probably know, Robert F. Kennedy Jr, is currently running for President of the US as an independent candidate. Aside from this "fame", he was a very successful environmental attorney who has no doubt done a world of good for local citizens versus corporate pollution. But he also has done much research into drug/vaccination testing.

In listening to interviews with him, he purports that vaccinations do not require the same FDA scrutiny of other drugs. (and the scrutiny to other drugs, especially for off label diagnosis is very porous)
His research (supposedly) points to the increase in vaccinations and the increase in autism.

One of his points is that the number of required vaccinations have increased, as have the number of autistic children. I don't know if this is true. He says "where were all these autistic children when we were kids?" As an older person, I kind of agree, but for all I know, they were in the "special ed" class, but more or less, I truly do not know.

IF this has any degree of truth to it, it seems criminal at the very least. A lot of us might argue that big pharma does much that should be considered criminal, using covid responses as an easy example.

Researching this topic is very difficult, as there is so much money involved, so there are tons of "articles" and "research" combatting his arguments.

I apologize for adding yet another issue for young parents to consider, but seems to at least weighing the advantages/possible life changing costs of vaccinations.


Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:20 pm to
Vaccines don't cause autism.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:20 pm to
the end
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:20 pm to
Think about how many women used to smoke cigs when pregnant and how few autistic kids there were
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:21 pm to
Genetics cause autism, not vaccines
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
70970 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:21 pm to
Thanks boomers
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
15761 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

Vaccines don't cause autism.


Eh jury is still out on that
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
34785 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:22 pm to
Something is increasing Autism. Could be vaccines, could be the microplastics in literally everything we eat and drink, could be 5G.
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:22 pm to
There were a lot more undiagnosed people in the past. Unless you were basically nonverbal, you were considered quirky, not autistic. Now, an autism diagnosis covers a pretty broad range of symptoms/characteristics.

Vaccines are a correlation thing. They’re given largely before 2, which is when autism symptoms become more apparent. There are also more older men and women having babies, which increases odds.
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 1:23 pm
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43418 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:23 pm to
im in my 40's and I remember way more special needs kids, dwarfs, etc when i was younger.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
71942 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:25 pm to
Vaccines? No.

Although the research is “spotty”, Scruffy would lean more towards the fluoridation of our water supply, if you wanted to pick a certain possible causative agent.

Fluoride really shouldn’t be in our water system in general though.
Posted by SW2SCLA
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Member since Feb 2009
22802 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:25 pm to
Vaccines don't cause autism
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3084 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:25 pm to
In the past, people were just quirky and watched too much Toonami.

Now they’re labeled neurodivergent autists and socially stunted for life.
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
3249 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

Vaccines don't cause autism.


Tell that to Jenny McCarthy’s 90’s bush.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
4844 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:26 pm to
They should ban vaccinations
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
71942 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

im in my 40's and I remember way more special needs kids, dwarfs, etc when i was younger.
Autism is becoming more prevalent, not less.

You could argue the diagnosing of it is becoming more broad though.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:28 pm to

Are more kids getting autism, or are more kids being diagnosed?
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25713 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

Vaccines don't cause autism.
There has been a large number of studies on millions of children all over the world on this very topic and there is no evidence for a link between vaccines and autism.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
34785 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

re more kids getting autism, or are more kids being diagnosed?


Yes
Posted by IlikeyouBetty
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2010
1243 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:30 pm to
My son is autistic and has never had a vaccine in his life. Not saying it can't contribute, but it can definitely happen without it. He is high functioning though, so maybe it would've been worse if vaccinated? I don't know.
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