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re: Vaccinations for kids? Related to Autism?
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:30 pm to diat150
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:30 pm to diat150
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im in my 40's and I remember way more special needs kids, dwarfs, etc when i was younger.
And they stayed in a special room all day and rode a special bus. And life was good.
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:32 pm to IlikeyouBetty
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My son is autistic and has never had a vaccine in his life. Not saying it can't contribute, but it can definitely happen without it. He is high functioning though, so maybe it would've been worse if vaccinated? I don't know.
Thanks for your feedback. What lead you to make a decision to not vaccinate?
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:36 pm to Grassy1
BCBA here (basically a behavioral therapist who specialized in treating autism)
this is a common fallacy I see. Thing is you wouldn't developnetally notice a kid has ASD until the age where they've been vaccinated.
Research has shown neurological differences in the brains of people with ASD and neurotypicals... I'm sorry but I don't think a vaccine is going to morph your brain.
Also, while I do think prevalence is is on the rise so is our ability to correctly diagnose. There are a lot of people who didn't get the diagnosis of ASD back when that really should have
TLDR...vaccines don't cause autism
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I currently have a few friends with children with autism, and obviously it's a life-long issue for the child and the parents. One specifically tells me that his son showed no symptoms of autism prior to vaccinations.
this is a common fallacy I see. Thing is you wouldn't developnetally notice a kid has ASD until the age where they've been vaccinated.
Research has shown neurological differences in the brains of people with ASD and neurotypicals... I'm sorry but I don't think a vaccine is going to morph your brain.
Also, while I do think prevalence is is on the rise so is our ability to correctly diagnose. There are a lot of people who didn't get the diagnosis of ASD back when that really should have
TLDR...vaccines don't cause autism
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:36 pm to OysterPoBoy
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Something is increasing Autism.
could be the microplastics in literally everything we eat and drink, .
It is without a doubt the food we eat.
I have serious doubts it has anything to do with the MMR vaccine. However, the vaccine schedule for kids has been increased. With my own child, we spread out her vaccines. She had no bad side effects.
I teach kids with Autism. The vaccine is an easy out for parents to be able to blame something. However, I haven’t seen any legitimate study that links Autism to vaccines.
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:37 pm to Grassy1
I'd worry about artificial color, flavor and plastic leach consumption in children moreso than vaccines.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:39 pm to 225Tyga
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Vaccines don't cause autism.
Eh jury is still out on that
Eh no it's not
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:40 pm to Shexter
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Are more kids getting autism, or are more kids being diagnosed?
The spectrum has broadened so vastly that every weird or socially awkward kid is now autistic.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:40 pm to Grassy1
Idk if vaccines cause any unknown side effects but they did have to alter them pretty early on because of the use of Mercury.
Idk if anyone truly knows what we're doing
Idk if anyone truly knows what we're doing
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:41 pm to OysterPoBoy
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Something is increasing Autism. Could be vaccines, could be the microplastics in literally everything we eat and drink, could be 5G.
The real increase is in proper (or over) diagnosing of autism. 200 years ago people died of old age, then we found out it was heart disease and cancer and the rates of both spiked.
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:41 pm to Evil Little Thing
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There were a lot more undiagnosed people in the past. Unless you were basically nonverbal, you were considered quirky, not autistic. Now, an autism diagnosis covers a pretty broad range of symptoms/characteristics.
Vaccines are a correlation thing. They’re given largely before 2, which is when autism symptoms become more apparent. There are also more older men and women having babies, which increases odds.
Thread.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:42 pm to Grassy1
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Thanks for your feedback. What lead you to make a decision to not vaccinate?
He was a very difficult baby. We didn't want to chance anything with him. We, of course, had read/heard all of the horror stories about vaccines and autism. I'm not sure anything would've changed had we vaccinated, it was just a gut feeling it was the right thing to avoid with him.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:43 pm to Grassy1
What is true anymore
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:44 pm to Grassy1
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"where were all these autistic children when we were kids?"
Grew up and post on TD now.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:45 pm to CatfishJohn
Also along with autism being under-diagnosed in the past, there is evidence for over-diagnosis now. This is mainly because of insurance money for autism-related therapies is basically unlimited with a diagnosis, and changes in diagnostic practices. This means a lot of kids who are mentally retarded and not necessarily autistic are getting diagnosed now to get the insurance spigot opened up.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:47 pm to CatfishJohn
There is one known risk factor for autism and that is age of the mother at birth. People are having children later and later so this definitely explains an increase in diagnosis (in addition to expanded diagnostic criteria).
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:47 pm to Grassy1
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As some of you probably know, Robert F. Kennedy Jr, is currently running for President of the US as an independent candidate.
If you're dumb enough to believe this, you're dumb enough to believe the rest of the nonsense you wrote.
Please keep your appendages and clothing away from garbage disposals and open flames.
Or maybe don't.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:47 pm to OysterPoBoy
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Something is increasing Autism. Could be vaccines, could be the microplastics in literally everything we eat and drink, could be 5G.
They changed how it is diagnosed and brought a lot more people under the umbrella of “autism”. This is a big reason why you see more autism cases. Our son was just diagnosed with it and while he has emotional development problems, it is not what many would consider autism - certainly not what we called it growing up. Looking into how it is diagnosed now with the consolidation of more people, there needs to be a continued subdivision of the diagnosis along with more education as to what those these “levels” are.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:48 pm to Grassy1
Stick to Baywatch, Jenny.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:52 pm to CatfishJohn
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Something is increasing Autism. Could be vaccines, could be the microplastics in literally everything we eat and drink, could be 5G.
The real increase is in proper diagnosing of autism. 200 years ago people died of old age, then we found out it was heart disease and cancer and the rates of both spiked.
We see the same things in cancer diagnosis. Better diagnosis means we spot more cancers earlier including age and exposure-related cancers. The result is that more people survive cancer than ever before. Spotting them sooner increases your odds of beating it but also will shift the age of diagnosis younger.
This sort of thing is why people are warned about equating correlation with causation.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 1:54 pm to Displaced
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The spectrum has broadened so vastly that every weird or socially awkward kid is now autistic.
In the DSM, there's actually a decent amount of criteria that needs to be met for an ASD diagnosis. Especially compared to more common disorders. You can't just "test" someone for it. And someone coming into an office saying "I don't like wearing socks with stitches and TikTok says I have Autism" isn't getting a valid diagnosis like that either.
For the OP, instead of just labeling kids as slow or socially awkward like we used to we have a more extensive criteria that leads to the ASD label. Autism wasn't it's own diagnosis until the 80s, so it's relatively new.
And the notion that the MMR vaccine causes Autism was rooted in a horribly flawed study done by Andrew Wakefield with 12 subjects that has been debunked several times.
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