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Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:38 am to Bunk Moreland
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I think the unconventionals are a short-term shot in the arm
You mean like a 30 year short term shot that allows us energy independence and a bridge to transition to alternative fuels?
Sounds about right
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:39 am to t00f
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We are not utilizing this oil output to make fuel in the US. They are draining our oil capability and sending it out of the US.
Wait until you find out how much fuel we export as well.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:42 am to ragincajun03
This is one of the reasons that the US super power status is going to not change anytime soon.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:43 am to No Colors
The entire point of peak oil is that the easy to discover and produce low hanging fruit is picked first -- supergiant fields or whatever. Then, you move to more difficult to refine product with lower energy returned on energy invested and which requires greater investment.
I am all for drill baby drill. I just think the idea that we have limitless supplies of cheap energy remaining is delusional.
I am all for drill baby drill. I just think the idea that we have limitless supplies of cheap energy remaining is delusional.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:51 am to Bunk Moreland
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limitless supplies of cheap energy remaining is delusional.
I don't think anyone thinks that.
They're spending $10 billion to develop fields in 6000 feet of water to drill 20,000 feet under the sea. Into salt domes that we can't see through, at temperatures and pressures that have never been successfully completed.
It's not cheap or easy. But it is basically limitless. It's off Florida. It's off the Chesapeake Bay. It's off Alaska. We are drilling in maybe 10% of the footprint that we could be exploring. We won't run out of oil. We'll run out of political will to drill it. And we'll develop hydrogen or something else to replace it long before we run out of it.
But if we were producing 6mm bpd like in 2005, verses 13mm bpd today, how many wars would we be fighting simultaneously to secure another 5-6mm per day? Nigeria, Iraq, and Venezuela at a minimum. Oil would be $250 barrel and we would have 1 million men at arms deployed around the world trying to secure our supply. So thank God for unconventional discoveries and the innovation inspired American capitalist spirit
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:53 am to Bunk Moreland
I agree. I doubt there are any Spindletops left.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:56 am to ragincajun03
The oilfield is better than ever in history right now. Im heading back out tomorrow for 21 days. They just want you to believe it’s not doing well. Im working on the world’s first 20k+ psi formation pressure wells. With a four year extension for more wells!
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:57 am to ragincajun03
So much for the gov forcing us all to drive EVs
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:58 am to ragincajun03
America will be great again. It’s coming. A yankee turned Floridian and a Hillbilly coming to office. LFG
Posted on 8/12/24 at 9:24 am to Bunk Moreland
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I just think the idea that we have limitless supplies of cheap energy remaining is delusional.
The reserves in Anwar are bigger than Saudi Arabia
Posted on 8/12/24 at 9:24 am to KiwiHead
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So long as the Saudis don't get nervous and cut back production like in 2014 it's all good for now
It was the other way around. They flooded the market to hurt our fracking industry and they were successful in doing so- for a few years
Posted on 8/12/24 at 10:02 am to Gifman
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needs to go much higher... pump more
According to who?
Posted on 8/12/24 at 10:38 am to JohnnyKilroy
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We’ve been setting production records the last few years. It’s been incredible to be in O&G the last several years
Well at least post-Covid/2020. The 2015-2020 bust was very painful. The U.S. is about as close to energy independence as it has ever been.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 10:40 am to ragincajun03
I thought this administration wants to get rid of fossil fuels?
Posted on 8/12/24 at 10:43 am to jennyjones
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t was the other way around. They flooded the market to hurt our fracking industry and they were successful in doing so- for a few years
I really don’t understand why that was celebrated at the time on these boards and the president at the time pretended to be powerless to stop it.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 10:48 am to LSUDad
The U.S. exports more petroleum than it imports. So why are we importing at all?
Crude oil exports of about 4.06 million b/d accounted for 40% of total U.S. gross petroleum exports.
Crude oil exports of about 4.06 million b/d accounted for 40% of total U.S. gross petroleum exports.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 10:48 am to Motownsix
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I really don’t understand why that was celebrated at the time on these boards and the president at the time pretended to be powerless to stop it.
Because people like cheap gas. I don’t think it’s that hard to figure out.
If you didn’t work in the O&G industry, oil going from like $115 to $40 was great.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 10:59 am to LSUDad
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The U.S. exports more petroleum than it imports. So why are we importing at all?
Oh boy. You just opened a can of worms.
First off, the US is still a net importer of crude oil, to the tune of ~2.5 million barrels a day.
Second, if you look at the individual import/export numbers you will see that we import about 6.5 million barrels and export about 4 million barrels of crude oil. So the question becomes “why don’t we just import the 2.5 million barrel difference?”
The answer is that US refineries are mostly built to run “opportunity crudes” - typically some combination of heavy, sour crude oil, while the US upstream production consists of a lot of light/sweet crude. Light/sweet crude is more valuable because it requires less work to refine into finished fuels. However, heavy crudes are referred to as “opportunity crudes” precisely because they trade at a discount.
US refineries leverage their infrastructure (conversion units such as hydrotreaters, hydrocrackers, catalytic crackers, cokers, etc.) to allow them to run cheap heavy oil, mostly imported from Canada. Because of the way refinery utilization works, they actually need to run this heavy crude in order to keep those conversion units running at capacity.
So as a result, the US exports light/sweet crude (sold at a premium) and imports heavy/sour crude (sold at a discount).
ETA: Also worth noting that while we are still a net importer of crude oil, we are a net exporter of crude oil + refined products. Because while we have about 2.5 million bbl/d in net crude imports, that’s offset by about 4.5 million bbl/d in net refined product exports.
This post was edited on 8/12/24 at 11:05 am
Posted on 8/12/24 at 11:01 am to LSUDad
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The U.S. exports more petroleum than it imports. So why are we importing at all?
Because our refineries on the Gulf Coast were designed to run on a significant percentage of heavy crude coming from Venezuela and Mexico.
They've made some modifications over the years to process more light sweet Texas crude. But they still need some heavy.
Which is why we quietly have been buying heavy from Venezuela and Nigeria etc. While selling light on the export market.
ETA: what rhe guy above me said
This post was edited on 8/12/24 at 11:02 am
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