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re: US military could lose a war to China or Russia, study for Congress finds
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:44 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:44 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
quote:Just go MARSOC dude.
At least you’ve gotten to deploy.
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:48 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Nah frick all that, I’ve come to terms with never deploying, get out in June, my e-4 arse can’t control if I ever deployed anyway. No use crying over it.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:50 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
The United States should never fight another war unless there is an invasion of our country.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:51 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
quote:Exactly brother. Don’t sweat it
Nah frick all that, I’ve come to terms with never deploying, get out in June, my e-4 arse can’t control if I ever deployed anyway. No use crying over it.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:52 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
since when would we ever fight a China or Russia totally alone???? if we lose, it's because we don't have allies or they have them, and geez, whose fault is that?
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:52 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
That’s because we spend valuable resources touting sexual assault awareness training.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:53 pm to STLDawg
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My first question is why would we want to fight?
Yeah, it would be stupid for us to go to Russia or China to fight them in a war.. And it would be stupid for them to come here to fight a war. I don't see a plan where one side having to get materials to the other side's location being successful.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:54 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Whoever has the capacity to take out the other's satellites will have the greatest advantage. That being said, if it comes to that point, the nuclear ramifications are much more dire to global destruction.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:55 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
If the country was about to be over run and we would be subjugated to communist Chinese rule, would you want your leader to use nukes?
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:58 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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created to evaluate the Trump administration's defense strategy
Checks out
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:58 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:
I can see some President and/or admiral making the political decision that he doesn't want to be the one to lose 5,000 sailors and $15 billion and keeping the carriers in port or far out to see out of harms way.
That’s what the Brits mostly did in WW1 despite having the vastly superior navy. They were scared of losing their new super cruisers to submarines so they just sat in the port except for 1 major skirmish and a few others. Doubt the US would do the same since we are so far ahead of everyone with our navy that anyone that comes up against us is pretty much doomed, our air and sea power are our strengths and if we just sat back and made it a ground and pound affair we are morons. So yeah you’re probably right, that’s ezactly what they’ll do.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:59 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
So, we could beat the worlds military's combined. That is fact. China can have a 10 billion man army, it doesn't matter if they only have 700 boats and 3000 aircraft. If you control the sky, you control the battlefield.
LINK
Air Power
US 13,362
China 3,035
Russia 3,914
Carriers
US 20
China 1
Russia 0
Destroyers
US 65
China 29
Russia 13
Submarines
US 66
China 73
Russia 62
Defense Budget
US 647 billion
China 151 billion
Russia 47 billion
Active Military Manpower
US 1,281,900
China 2,183,000
Russia 1,013,628
Tanks
US 5,884
China 7,716
Russia 20,300
LINK
Air Power
US 13,362
China 3,035
Russia 3,914
Carriers
US 20
China 1
Russia 0
Destroyers
US 65
China 29
Russia 13
Submarines
US 66
China 73
Russia 62
Defense Budget
US 647 billion
China 151 billion
Russia 47 billion
Active Military Manpower
US 1,281,900
China 2,183,000
Russia 1,013,628
Tanks
US 5,884
China 7,716
Russia 20,300
Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:06 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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China and Russia are seeking dominance in their regions and the ability to project military power globally,
How would they project power?
Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:09 pm to JackieTreehorn
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The United States should never fight another war unless there is an invasion of our country.
I think your referring to major nation on nation war, but do you understand the United States has been at some form of conflict most years of its existence? It is necessary when we are the only global police force. There is always going to be conflict in the world and the USA needs to be able to step in when needed.
List of wars involving the United States
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:10 pm to DCtiger1
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How would they project power?
Look at their current efforts
China and Russia are both exerting economic power through market manipulations and adverse trade agreements
China is building bases in the SCS and has "invaded" some islands that are locked in territorial disputes
China has sent their Navy to S. America on numerous occasions
Russian ships operate just off our atlantic coast
They are deeply entrenched in Syria and have worked to destabilize the Ukraine and Baltic States
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:22 pm to Tigeralum2008
What you’re referring to is more of a regional projection then the ability to project globally.
My point is that they are nowhere near the ability to project power that the US possesses. China has one carrier that is more of a test case and Russia has zero.
As someone that worked on defense budget issues in DC, this report is some BS.
My point is that they are nowhere near the ability to project power that the US possesses. China has one carrier that is more of a test case and Russia has zero.
As someone that worked on defense budget issues in DC, this report is some BS.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:27 pm to Teufelhunden
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If the country was about to be over run and we would be subjugated to communist Chinese rule, would you want your leader to use nukes?
Rifle behind every blade of grass. . . yada yada yada.
I just don't think rural North Louisiana would be worth the headache to conquer and rule. Some natural gas, rich farmland, gorgeous women, but we're drunk, quarrelsome, and heavily armed. It's like fighting a big retarded guy. You win nothing and he might eat you.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:28 pm to STLDawg
quote:one they are coming here, it is far too late
My first question is why would we want to fight? They coming to North America? If not, I don't care.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:31 pm to Jim Rockford
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They could strangle our economy without setting foot on this continent. One might argue that they are implementing the nonmilitary phase of that plan right now
That only works as long as we allow it.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:37 pm to Teufelhunden
quote:
If the country was about to be over run and we would be subjugated to communist Chinese rule, would you want your leader to use nukes?
On our own soil? fricking yikes man, I have no idea what I would want him to do.
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