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re: US Media: Little evidence that protests spread coronavirus in U.S.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 11:56 am to TH03
Posted on 7/3/20 at 11:56 am to TH03
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It’s nearly impossible to have fact based convos that also have some nuance to them on here.
Just wait until they learn that the airplane on a treadmill will take off.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 11:59 am to goofball
This article is such garbage - it certainly should not pass as any sort of actual science. It was done by a team of economists (Economists!!) with a lead author from the esteemed Bentley University.
Meanwhile, in the the same article, they mention that data from Johns Hopkins found evidence of case surges in certain cities after protests, but "experts" say that surge was "probably" related to other reasons. Of course...
The biased garbage that passes as science these days is unbelievable.
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In what’s considered the first systematic look at the question, a team of economists determined that only one of 13 cities involved in the earliest wave of protests after Memorial Day had an increase that would fit the pattern.
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said that study’s lead author, Dhaval Dave of Bentley University.
Meanwhile, in the the same article, they mention that data from Johns Hopkins found evidence of case surges in certain cities after protests, but "experts" say that surge was "probably" related to other reasons. Of course...
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Drawing from data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, The Associated Press reviewed trends in daily reported cases in 22 U.S. cities with protests. It found post-protest increases in several cities — including Houston and Madison, Wisconsin — where experts say other factors were more likely the main drivers.
The biased garbage that passes as science these days is unbelievable.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 12:05 pm to Jack_Handy
If it doesn't spread because protests are outdoors, they have no reason not to allow everyone inside of Tiger Stadium for a game, restrict practices for sports, etc.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 12:44 pm to goofball
I love how on one hand this virus can be so easily spread that you must wear a mask when around other people at all times. But on the other hand we can “definitively say” that the virus was not spread in certain mass gatherings of people.
But you know what let’s run with that line. Have every media member and politician sign their name on it. Then let’s play some football this fall.
But you know what let’s run with that line. Have every media member and politician sign their name on it. Then let’s play some football this fall.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 1:14 pm to goofball
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These assholes have an agenda
I'm very liberal and even I acknowledge this.
Wait until this board comes to a realization that their golden boy athletic director is best friends with major players in the DNC. It's going to be a glorious melt this fall.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 1:17 pm to goofball
It's fricking comical, and after they send out stuff like this news people cannot understand why everyone thinks their profession is dead.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 1:20 pm to Powerman
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There is a really big difference between indoor without masks vs outdoor with masks so they're not completely wrong.
Also a big difference between 50 ppl in a bar and 10,000 ppl in a few city blocks. And why do we assume all the indoor activities are without masks and outdoor activities are with masks? Pictures of protests clearly show many people without masks, while most all permitted indoor activities have some level of mask requirement.
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But hey let's shut down the beaches for 4th of July weekend anyway
Exactly. You would think if they had concluded on the protests, it would serve as some sort of finding. Like maybe encourage outdoor festivals or beach activities as they have been deemed safe. But no, it’s simply the protests that are harmless.
And we still have people that don’t think the media is completely biased and full of shite. Those people need to be asking themselves why would they be lying. Who does it benefit, who does it hurt.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 1:45 pm to goofball
It’s disingenuous statistics and poorly provided for consumer but accurate.
The studies looked at the overall population. Didn’t matter if they were protesting or not. So most people saw the protests and steered way clear. It was a small percentage of the overall population that protested. The study didn’t trace down to the actual protestors to see if within their ranks the virus spread. Most people that hunkered down wouldn’t have been exposed thus for overall population COVID spread reduced.
So in summary a lot of variables contributed to the virus not growing during the protests for the overall population. Including most people wanting to stay home aka another way to “social distance”
Of course the media isn’t focused and the actual root cause for this statistical anomaly. They just want you to hear what they want you to believe.
Don’t always believe the stats that you hear. Remember Hillary was up by 10 basis point on election night.
The studies looked at the overall population. Didn’t matter if they were protesting or not. So most people saw the protests and steered way clear. It was a small percentage of the overall population that protested. The study didn’t trace down to the actual protestors to see if within their ranks the virus spread. Most people that hunkered down wouldn’t have been exposed thus for overall population COVID spread reduced.
So in summary a lot of variables contributed to the virus not growing during the protests for the overall population. Including most people wanting to stay home aka another way to “social distance”
Of course the media isn’t focused and the actual root cause for this statistical anomaly. They just want you to hear what they want you to believe.
Don’t always believe the stats that you hear. Remember Hillary was up by 10 basis point on election night.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 7:38 pm to ELLSSUU
Regardless of outdoors many were pushed together and shouting while not always wearing masks and definitely not wearing them correctly. Many young and then going to bars or other social gatherings and trips afterwards (especially the professional protesters).
If anyone in majority not protesting had concerns about social gatherings, parties, or travel the media's complete lack of concern about protesters and rioters spreading Wuhan both during and afterwards basically closed the door on Wuhan as a threat for these people after seeing the videos and pictures glorying their actions 24/7. Trying to back track with experts giving them a pass while still glorifying them and their actions didn't correct this but just reinforced it at a time when so many were waiting to get out and do something already.
Also in Texas there was a loosening of what it would take to be reported as positive. I thought it was more about contact tracing and trying to aggressively get on top of possible outbreaks starting June 1st with summer and less restrictions without waiting on test, but there doesn't seem to be any distinguishing between what was a positive before June 1st and what is after. I know it's not main cause of increase, but some were wondering about how increases just because of this change would be taken by public even before protests broke out.
I still can't believe Abbott made 20 the number of active cases in a county for mandatory masks to kick in. That's a drop in a bucket for some highly populated counties and even with less populated counties the cases could be more isolated already.
If anyone in majority not protesting had concerns about social gatherings, parties, or travel the media's complete lack of concern about protesters and rioters spreading Wuhan both during and afterwards basically closed the door on Wuhan as a threat for these people after seeing the videos and pictures glorying their actions 24/7. Trying to back track with experts giving them a pass while still glorifying them and their actions didn't correct this but just reinforced it at a time when so many were waiting to get out and do something already.
Also in Texas there was a loosening of what it would take to be reported as positive. I thought it was more about contact tracing and trying to aggressively get on top of possible outbreaks starting June 1st with summer and less restrictions without waiting on test, but there doesn't seem to be any distinguishing between what was a positive before June 1st and what is after. I know it's not main cause of increase, but some were wondering about how increases just because of this change would be taken by public even before protests broke out.
I still can't believe Abbott made 20 the number of active cases in a county for mandatory masks to kick in. That's a drop in a bucket for some highly populated counties and even with less populated counties the cases could be more isolated already.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 7:40 pm to goofball
There’s never been such a blatant example of gaslighting as claiming that protests which align with the spike are totally irrelevant but those folks going to the beach - how irresponsible.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 7:43 pm to Eat Your Crow
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They haven't for a decade, at least.
A decade
40 years ago Ronald Reagan was running against Jimmy Carter. One of the three network talking heads, Frank somebody, signed off with, “Some people are wondering if a vote for Ronald Reagan is a vote for nuclear war.”
Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:19 pm to goofball
Cough....bullshite...cough.....fake news....cough cough....corksoakers.....cough cough
Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:48 pm to goofball
People are just dishonest. These same people were saying the people protesting to go back to work were trying to die over a hair cut.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 10:10 pm to goofball
Yeah it was all these selfish people needing haircuts
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