re: Idaho Murders Thread (Links inside)

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It’s just whether they are getting new info or have known make and mode of white car in cop video for awhile and decided to release info tactically to increase pressure on killer or someone giving killer an alibi making them think more is on the way more than cops expecting new videos from area in request.

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Let’s be real for a minute. The cops know exactly who’s in that car thanks to cell phones. You only have to look no further than all the people sitting in jail in DC because their cell phones put them at the capital. The existence of the tech is not in doubt. The problem is not that the police don’t know who it is. The problem is that sitting at a traffic light isn’t a crime. They need probable cause to search the vehicle. The reads like an attempt by the cops to shake the tree and see how this individual reacts.

OK I got downvoted for being confused on who a suspect was

Can someone make a guide as to who is who for this case?

There is a lot of Jack and Jake etc in this case and it's all hard to keep straight

Link also had a pic of dog and ex. Article mentions that Murphy is living with Jack now.

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Kaylee's dog Murphy (pictured) which had been at the home at the time of the murders and was found unscathed, is now living with her boyfriend Jack DuCoeur

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What do y’all make of the guys in plain clothes going through the house last night?

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Is the FBI involved in this case? Just wondering

News on this is slowing down, so I get why Kaylee’s parents are pushing it. Outside of Kernodle’s father mentioning that Xana may have had defensive wounds from putting up a fight the Goncalves have shared the most about the case including the sister sharing details on phone calls to ex.

Kaylee’s father just seems like he shares his opinions as being official facts at times. Describing the 2nd floor murders as a “hell of a battle” is a big difference than Xana possibly having some defensive wounds. He is starting to get impatient and might be pushing early conversations with coroner who unprofessionally offered up her theories based upon crime scenes just as she did during an early tv interview. The locals did a poor job of what they communicated to the public and to the families the first several days (if not the entire 1st week).

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The father of slain University of Idaho student Kaylee Goncalves told Fox News Digital that the victims had "big open gouges" that were clearly the work of a "sadistic male" and called police "cowards" for not sharing more with the public

…Goncalves said his daughter's injuries "definitely did not match" Mogen's wounds. "They may have individually died from the exact same thing, being stabbed, but there are more details," he added. "They're not even close to matching."

The knife slashed open Kaylee Goncalves' liver and lungs, he said.

…Goncalves surmised that they died in Mogen's bedroom on the third floor because "there are photos of Kaylee's room with no blood on the bed."

He added that his investigators didn't obscure the windows in his daughter's room like they did for the other victims.

Although the coroner told Goncalves that the victims died quickly and did not suffer, he said he's not convinced.

Kernodle, who had defensive wounds, and Chapin were found on the second floor of 1122 King Road. "It was a hell of a battle going on down there from what the coroner told us," Goncalves said.

Mabbutt, when reached by phone, declined to comment on the information she disclosed to Goncalves.

… "I got outraged by them not just coming out and saying this was a woman or a man because they should know by the amount of strength it took to deliver the injuries," he said. "They're just being cowards. There are girls walking around the street right now that deserve to know. They should be looking out for a sadistic male."

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/idaho-murders-father-slain-victim-says-big-open-wounds-calls-police-cowards

I really haven't followed this story, but just read this article and caught up on the situation.

Its pretty insane that in today's world this happened and there isn't any suspects.

Not to mention they killed 4 people with an edged weapon. That's harder than going in with a gun and bam, bam, bam, bam...

Just watched the local news here and no mention… I’m very curious about the white car.

It is absolutely insane that the investigators did not take it upon themselves to go pull video from area cameras within days of this crime. They really waited on an overnight store clerk to do this work and call them 6 weeks later?!! This just lends more to the reality that this investigation was botched from the start.

With that said, I find it really hard to believe the police do not know who owns that car and who was driving that car. They know and they likely have questioned the person and likely have that person as their suspect but they do not have enough evidence to tie them to the murders.

I say this because, whoever owns that car knows who they are, and if they were innocent they would have come forward to the police and given them the information they need. It that had happened, the police would call off the help to locate the car because it was cleared by the driver coming forward and answering investigators questions. So likely what they are doing is piecing together a puzzle of this person actions and activity the day of the murders and after.

If the driver or owner of the car did not come forward by now, then they have pretty good certainty that the driver of that car is the person responsible for the murders. No way the driver does not know these murders occurred that night, they were driving in the area during that time, and that the police have put out an alert for information about that car. By not coming forward it brings legitimate suspicion.

Now back to the police knowing who was driving. They are not going to release any identifiable information about the vehicle like the license plate or driver because they do not want the public to target the person before they can make an arrest.

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To be fair, they can’t go door to door of every single person, apartment and business personally

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In the small area they requested videos from early last week I think they could have and definitely could have checked every business, but I don’t think the gas station is exactly in that square.

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An overnight assistant at the Mobil station on White Avenue and Highway 8 told DailyMail.com she may have spotted the white Hyundai Elantra that police believe is connected to the fatal stabbings speeding away from the scene.

She said she spent days poring over surveillance footage from the night of November 13 before she spotted a white sedan traveling westbound on White Avenue at around 3.45am the night of the murder before turning down a side street.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11535219/University-Idaho-murder-update-Clerk-gas-station-spots-white-sedan-speeding-away-3-45am.html

Biggest thing with the people noticed in the background of the police cam video released is did the police notice this before and try to find out who they were to ask them what they saw (if not completely wasted).

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One officer's bodycam captured the incident, and in the background of the video, several people can be seen moving quickly past police on Taylor Avenue, two houses down from the scene of the crime.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11533297/Several-people-spotted-near-home-four-University-Idaho-students-murdered.html


This is older, but I didn’t remember reading about police looking into something mailed to Kaylee.

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He also said that he and his wife were asked to sign a "waiver form" to allow police to investigate "something that was mail-related." Goncalves did not offer any further details on what police were investigating in regard to the mail.

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https://www.newsweek.com/idaho-murders-update-police-investigating-item-related-victims-mail-1764708


Also for some reason the ladder on side of house was still there as of Monday. Someone earlier in this thread mentioned it a while back as possibly being used by one of the friends that arrived that morning to try and look into Xana’s window.

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"Some of you asked me about the ladder," Entin said. "Yeah. There is a ladder... There is a ladder on the other side of the house that has been there since the beginning, which is kind of interesting."

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This captain in article wasn’t first to arrive (called in when murders known), but it shows some of the inexperience at the scene.

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The scene was calm but "very, very somber" as a throng of students gathered around the house, he said.

"They were standing outside, there was a lot of crying, there were friends trying to find out who exactly was inside the house, some family members that arrived on scene. It was incredibly hard for the community," the captain recalled.

Four rookie officers were in tow, and it was the first major crime scene they had ever encountered, Lanier said.

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/idaho-murders-captain-recalls-finding-weeping-friends-family-somber-crime-scene


Story about the glove.
https://www.newsweek.com/glove-found-idaho-student-murder-home-raises-questions-1766313

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Anyone see the reports of a black glove found near the house in the snow by a PI?

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shite….do we know OJ’s whereabouts a month ago?