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Posted on 12/17/22 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/17/22 at 4:25 pm to
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shite….do we know OJ’s whereabouts a month ago?


OJ isn't going anywhere cold. Now if someone shows up dead on a golf course somewhere warm.. He should be the primary suspect.
Posted by Bengalbio
Member since Feb 2017
2196 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 4:29 pm to
What is the prospect of solving a murder as the days and weeks tick by? The rate of solving a murder has to decline steeply, especially since we now have dna evidence, which has often freed prisoners since its widespread acceptance.

It’s a terrible situation for the community and the university; a remembrance that will live on for decades as new students come to town.

A quadruple murder with a bladed weapon while survivors sleep unaware; it just boggles my mind.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26678 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 5:59 pm to
New Video that the police have, shows the two girls earlier in the night with “hoodie guy” near them and the girls were talking about him.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143696 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 6:05 pm to
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IT_Dawg


You seem to be following this closely. Do you think “hoodie guy” is a legitimate suspect?

Does your gut tell you police have a legit suspect they are just trying to collect enough evidence on?

It’s crazy to me with the FBI’s early involvement, not much is known about the case.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26678 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 6:40 pm to
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You seem to be following this closely. Do you think “hoodie guy” is a legitimate suspect?

I’ve been following this very closely. I usually follow these and other big types of stories and trials.

I think hoodie guy is definitely a person of interest. I’m not convinced it is him just yet though, especially since the police interviewed him and likely not linked to the White Elantra unless it was a buddies car. He does hurry around the corner after seeing the girls get into their ride (not Uber btw) home though

quote:

Does your gut tell you police have a legit suspect they are just trying to collect enough evidence on?


I think the police definitely have a lot of evidence they are not sharing and know much more than they let on. I believe right now that they have some ideas of who might be involved in some capacity, but I think the White Elantra is really the key to bring it all together…as I think this was potentially done by 2 people, either both in the house, or 1 in the house and 1 in the car waiting

I don’t think this was a completely random killing
This post was edited on 12/17/22 at 6:41 pm
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143696 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 7:12 pm to
Thanks for the updates and following this story.

I have two currently in college As a parent, this story makes me nauseous.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26678 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 7:40 pm to
In the new surveillance video from sometime before the food truck in downtown…..Kaylee can be heard asking:
“Maddie, what did you say to Adam?”

Maddie replies:
“Like, I told Adam everything”
This post was edited on 12/17/22 at 7:41 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65563 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 8:00 am to
LINK

Not sure if it's been posted, but Mike from the "That Chapter" YouTube channel posted a video about this a couple days ago. He goes into a lot of what is out there about this case so far.
This post was edited on 12/18/22 at 8:01 am
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
12233 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 10:29 am to
Do you have a link for that specific video? And I watched the one with the supposed scream but didn't hear it, do you know if there's a timestamp for it?
Posted by grsharky
Member since Dec 2019
299 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 10:49 am to
The video is on the ny posts website. I watched the video three times and I couldn’t hear anything besides the people talking.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10521 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 11:15 am to
quote:

In the new surveillance video from sometime before the food truck in downtown…..Kaylee can be heard asking: “Maddie, what did you say to Adam?”

Maddie replies: “Like, I told Adam everything”


Has anyone with the name of Adam been mentioned in connection to this in the past? Seems like so many names outside of the Jacks have come up but can’t recall an Adam. Kaylee’s dad said the person isn’t a suspect. What they were talking about and having the same Jack near them as at food truck is definitely interesting.


I did read that police video taken nearby may have picked up the sound of a car peeling out or a scream.
https://nypost.com/2022/12/17/scream-picked-up-by-police-bodycam-night-of-idaho-murders-report/


Also read that cops have known about white vehicle from the day or 2 after from a security camera at a house or an apartments complex on Linda Ln off Taylor.
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The car, which Francetich described as both "white" and "light colored," traveled west on Taylor Road sometime between 2:45 a.m. and 3:15 a.m., he said. Only a side view of the car is visible in the footage.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/idaho-murders-white-car-spotted-footage-obtained-police-one-day-killings


There was something about getting video from locations up to 25 miles East/SE of Moscow. I can’t remember if this was the direction the Jack at the food truck was supposed to have taken going a family cabin that night (morning).

https://www.foxnews.com/us/idaho-murders-investigators-traveled-least-24-miles-collect-surveillance-video-related-killings
This post was edited on 12/18/22 at 11:21 am
Posted by windmill
Prairieville, La
Member since Dec 2005
7788 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 6:49 pm to
Almost seems like it was test kill so to speak before escalating to the Students”

A “ test kill”? I’m going to go with a No on this idea.
Posted by bikerack
NH
Member since Sep 2011
2543 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:15 am to
Probably nothing but a random white elantra with no plates and lots of damage was found in Eugene, OR...450 miles away. A homeless guy was found in the car but he's not the owner.

NY Post

ETA - car has no connection...

https://wgme.com/news/nation-world/police-white-elantra-spotted-near-scene-of-idaho-quadruple-murder-found-moscow-police-department-university-of-idaho-college-students-killed-stabbed-to-death-ethan-chapman-xana-kernodle-madison-mogen-kaylee-goncalves





This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 8:36 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:49 am to
"Amateur internet sleuths" are making a mess of this thing.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 9:01 am to
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Not sure if it's been posted, but Mike from the "That Chapter" YouTube channel posted a video about this a couple days ago


Hes far and away the best true crime narrator on youtube.

Some of them are terribly irresponsible.
Posted by bikerack
NH
Member since Sep 2011
2543 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 9:03 am to
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The video is on the ny posts website. I watched the video three times and I couldn’t hear anything besides the people talking.


I watched part of a YT video embedded on another forum where the host analyzed the audio. It wasn't until then that I could hear the "scream".

However, the host compared it to a real scream and a brake squealing....and it sounds more like the brakes than a scream.

I just tried to find the video and wasn't successful. I'll post it if I come across it again.
Posted by bikerack
NH
Member since Sep 2011
2543 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 10:18 am to
Found it!

This link should take you to the 30 min mark of this video which is right before he starts analyzing the audio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ME_1XHRf_s&t=1801s
Posted by tilthatday
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
1008 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 10:38 am to
Can’t do any worse than the cops.
I’ve posted this before: in my experience, these crimes are seldom “solved” by so-called detective work. This ain’t a movie and there’s no Sherlock hard at work in the background.
Unless there is a witness or the perp is caught in the act, there’s little hope until or unless an informant appears.
Can you say Jon Benet?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108269 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 11:05 am to
Highly likely this perp has no DNA in the system and has likely never been caught before (may be his first time) which will make this highly difficult for police to sort out. The white car seems like a decent lead but clearly not a slam dunk at this point. If this perp was close to one of the victims or had anger rage specifically toward them I think this one would be solved or very narrowed down at this point.

The longer it goes on the higher likelihood this was a random attack or the perp had no real connection to the victims and that makes really hard to find him.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65563 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 11:07 am to
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Hes far and away the best true crime narrator on youtube.


Yeah his videos are great.
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