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re: UPDATE: Houston Ship Channel Closure Due to ITC Fire and Resultant Spill - 23 March 2019

Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:00 am to
Posted by ZoneLiftGMC
Member since Oct 2010
914 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:00 am to
I agree man, our office is at 225 and battleground. It’s scary how much stuff is sitting in a tank within yards of this site.
Posted by Simplemaaan
Member since Sep 2007
4119 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:04 am to
Could see the flames all the way from I-10 when I passed about 3:30 pm Sunday. Pretty impressive with a large cloud I could see from miles away.
Posted by PipelineBaw
TX
Member since Jan 2019
1422 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:07 am to
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Would using ships out of the question? May not matter if 12 of the 15 are burning. The tanks tot the south are cutoff. 

Not sure if that would be an option simply because it would put loading hands in an absolute unsafe environment. Pretty much have to find deckhands with a death wish like the Fukushima inspectors.

The best bet would be to pipe it to their other facility about 2 miles up the road in Pasadena. The only issue there is they only have so many pipes and a bunch of different products in storage.

It's a messy arse situation.

Latest from Briscoe
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 12:15 am
Posted by ZoneLiftGMC
Member since Oct 2010
914 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:21 am to
Yeah the way they are attacking it is pretty much the best way.

People are questioning the briscoe Cain report of 12 tanks, but it’s at least 6...there is video on Twitter. Even if 6...still bad especially if they can’t cool the steel. All of these petrochemicals can burn in excess of 2k degrees F. Which would be well beyond the yield of carbon steel.
Posted by ZoneLiftGMC
Member since Oct 2010
914 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:22 am to
I would assume they have flooded the containments. So hopefully there is a shite ton of water in there cooling the tanks.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 12:23 am
Posted by PipelineBaw
TX
Member since Jan 2019
1422 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:44 am to
Only problem at this point would be one of the tanks failing and leaking product onto the flooded containment.

Tons of people saying the real tank count is 6-8, not the 12 that Briscoe reported

Another Facebook Video
Video posted at 11:49p

Another Twitter Video
Posted at 12:58a. Shows tank deforming from heat
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 1:17 am
Posted by BoogerEater
Lake Charles, La.
Member since Feb 2008
1598 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:32 am to
Some of our guys are fighting fire, because we are part of CIMA. 6 tanks on fire and 3 quick attacks are destroyed. As of right now they aren’t getting it contained much and it just keeps getting bigger. They have tried to foam it but didn’t have enough. They have run out of fuel on multiple pumpers. It is a shite show.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13712 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 3:16 am to
How in the hell do you run out of fuel on the pumpers? Can’t get to them?
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12689 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 3:26 am to
I’ve heard 8 tanks on fire now, the whole group of 15 may go.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 3:30 am
Posted by offshoreangler
713, Texas
Member since Jun 2008
22579 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 3:52 am to
Our two trucks having been fighting this fire since the first CIMA call went out.

We had a similar incident happen at our facility in 2008 in a manifold. Nothing you can do but let it burn and try your best to cool the surrounding tanks.

Unfortunately for ITC this battery of tanks is built in close proximity to one another making it that much more difficult to mitigate the second and third order effects.
Posted by offshoreangler
713, Texas
Member since Jun 2008
22579 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:04 am to
ITC released a statement about 2 hours ago that confirmed a total of 7 tanks...6 gas blend and 1 oil tank(not black oil) are on fire.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13712 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:12 am to
So this deal isn’t anywhere close to being over.
Posted by BoogerEater
Lake Charles, La.
Member since Feb 2008
1598 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:33 am to
quote:

So this deal isn’t anywhere close to being over.


No, been listening to radio all night. Sounds like they might be losing dike wall also. Still going strong
Posted by BoogerEater
Lake Charles, La.
Member since Feb 2008
1598 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:34 am to
quote:

How in the hell do you run out of fuel on the pumpers? Can’t get to them?


Think it was unsafe to get to them.
Posted by Bamboozles
BR
Member since Jul 2008
2421 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 5:35 am to
LINK

Live link

Yes the bugger is still ablaze.....not good

ETA: 7 tanks now
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 5:37 am
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26806 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 6:39 am to
quote:

All of these petrochemicals can burn in excess of 2k degrees F. Which would be well beyond the yield of carbon steel.


But, Steel doesn’t lose integrity from gas fires.......
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31590 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 6:43 am to
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I thought it went dark after Thean Parker got buthted.


Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32319 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:02 am to
Live video certainly looks like they are far from having this under control. Those tanks being in such proximity makes for a nightmare response effort. For anyone that has been through an incident or firefighting training, it’s scary as shiite looking at that.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27870 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:09 am to
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But, Steel doesn’t lose integrity from gas fires.......




They've rattled off what the tanks hold. It's a lot of additives to gas and other products. Naphtha was one of the first two tanks. Xylene I believe was the other. This morning I guess 6 more tanks went up with other chemicals.
Posted by halleburton
Member since Dec 2009
1619 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:12 am to
Sure looks uncontrollable right now. Would these tanks explode like the West, TX plant a few years back? Or something much less spectacular?
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