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re: UPDATE 4/26 -Just In Case the OT Didn't Know - The UK is murdering a little baby right now

Posted on 4/28/18 at 5:01 am to
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
73768 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 5:01 am to
It's really sad he passed. I watched a recent video of the child wide-eyed and looking around.

I mean really.. if you don't like the care your child is receiving, regardless of reasoning.. you should freely be allowed to seek care elsewhere.. It shouldn't be about people's opinions on the situation or whether or not they value the quality of life.. but that's just my feelings.

This is enough to know I would never want this type of control in the US.



Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4954 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 5:55 am to
Universal health care sounds like a great idea doesn’t it?!?
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30963 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 6:09 am to
Alder Hey Hospital and the U.K. government starved him to death. Pure evil.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24248 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 9:14 am to
quote:

The parents have probably indirectly caused suffering for others and should direct their anger towards the system and not the people that devote their lives to helping people.

*comment from the Guardian article posted a few pages back

What in the world could make someone shift blame to these parents and say they are causing pain on others? I don't understand some of these whacko's thought process.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87383 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 9:19 am to
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Need to send a slew of Tomahawks to Liverpool.



Anfield only pls
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL
Member since Oct 2007
1089 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 10:57 am to
I think what bothers me the most about this story is that a hospital in the UK can basically stop parents from getting a second opinion.

Not saying this is what happened here...but I can easily imagine a situation where a child comes to hospital sick, hospital misdiagnoses and/or commits medical malpractice, as a result child now terminal, hospital fights to end child’s life and keep it from getting treatment elsewhere to prevent anyone from figuring out what really happened. It’s the entire freaking reason people are encouraged to get second opinions. Doctors and hospitals are often wrong.
This post was edited on 4/28/18 at 10:58 am
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
6912 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 11:31 am to
I watched Braveheart and The Patriot this week on AMC. After reading this, I may very well hate the British even more than Mel Gibson now.

Sad, especially from the judge and the police. How do their citizens respect their police force after they enforced something so heinous? Just sad.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11941 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 11:42 am to
Alfie Evans didn't meet his two month growth expectations

An examination of him in late 2016 showed brain abnormalities.

After that he suffered seizures at home and was taken to hospital.

the link shows what he and his parents went through in his 23 month long life.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69191 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:15 pm to
RIP Charlie.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:20 pm to
only thing I can add to this is something I’ve already said, stories like these show you the dangers of not standing up against attacks on personal freedoms and liberties
Posted by The Tom Arnold
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2015
1549 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:24 pm to
If a vet in BFE Alabama decided that a dog must die and another vet in BFE Mississippi offered to take the dog, and the Alabama vet refused to turn the dog over...

1. There would be a gofundme for the dog right around $50k in 24 hrs
2. Alabama vet would probably be burned to the ground
3. Alabama vet would lose all their customers and maybe their license.

What am I missing?
This post was edited on 4/28/18 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
7163 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 1:43 pm to
This shite wouldn't have happened here. I would have gotten the rest of like minded friends of mine together and got that family out the hospital onto the helicopter. Police would just have to shoot me.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 1:49 pm to
It's a terrible unnecessary situation. frick britain
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 2:00 pm to
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This shite wouldn't have happened here. I would have gotten the rest of like minded friends of mine together and got that family out the hospital onto the helicopter. Police would just have to shoot me


Seriously. I mean, I know there were armed police outside the room but if he picked his son up and tried to walk out are they going to tackle him with a baby in his arms?

I was thinking about this earlier and I would have gone out to that waiting helicopter and asked the Italians "I know you can't come in and help me, but if I can get my son out here myself will you still take him?"
If they said yes I would have at least had to try and make a break for it, even if it seemed futile.
Posted by drunkenpunkin
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
7662 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 2:10 pm to
I would've hired some country boys or mercenaries and gotten that baby on the helicopter. My whole opinion of Brits has changed through this. I can't believe they stood by while that baby died. Yeah, there were protests, but holding a sign and chanting didn't change a damn thing. I feel like here, one way or another, that baby would've made it to the helicopter. I always kind of roll my eyes at older people who mention how sick the world is and how we need to turn to God more than ever. But, damn if I don't feel like that today. Humanity is dying.
Posted by hrryhll
England
Member since Apr 2018
708 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 2:17 pm to
Calm down people. I like how you all think you are medical experts. Or have you just been listening to Fox News and Nigel Farage again?

And when you put your outdated gun rights before 6 year old kids being blown to bits you can’t exactly start taking the moral high ground. Sort out your own country’s problems.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 2:19 pm to
I don't have any kids of my own, just a niece and my best friends kids who are like nieces, and even for them I can't imagine not at least trying everything I could, even if its desperate. They would have to lock me up to stop.

And if by some miracle I succeeded in getting that baby out of that hospital and to Italy and I became a fugitive in my country and could never return home, that would be 100% worth it.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108361 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 2:21 pm to
frick Britain. They gave their souls, their tradition and their culture to Islamism and ultra liberalism. They don't exist anymore as a western country. In 20 more years you won't be able to tell the difference between England and Afghanistan. They will get what they deserve.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 2:31 pm to
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Calm down people. I like how you all think you are medical experts. Or have you just been listening to Fox News and Nigel Farage again? And when you put your outdated gun rights before 6 year old kids being blown to bits you can’t exactly start taking the moral high ground. Sort out your own country’s problems.


Oh wow.

You couldn’t identify what freedom or personal liberty was if it slapped you right in the face. And you an sure couldn’t have been bothered to read this thread because most people recognized that Alfie’s prognosis was dismal.

I take it you are a Brit. If so, you have my condolences on the ever increasing authoritarian nature of your government.
This post was edited on 4/28/18 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 2:31 pm to
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I like how you all think you are medical experts.
Scruffy is a medical expert.
quote:

And when you put your outdated gun rights before 6 year old kids being blown to bits you can’t exactly start taking the moral high ground. Sort out your own country’s problems.
Scruffy guesses freedom isn’t a thing y’all have across the pond.
This post was edited on 4/28/18 at 2:32 pm
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