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re: UPDATE 265 Class Liftboat capsizes . New survivor story. Page 77

Posted on 4/18/21 at 11:18 am to
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
4197 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 11:18 am to
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Lemme guess: If it was you in his place, you would have been pulling a Lt Dan right???

I have been in a few dicey situations and everyone decides it’s a good time to get right with god, myself included.
My point was seasoned captains experienced a storm that they didn’t think they were going to make it through and no one was forcing them to be in it they didn’t know it was going to be that bad!!
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 11:25 am
Posted by thedrumdoctor
Gonzales,La
Member since Sep 2016
900 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 12:57 pm to
I just read that the divers haven’t been in the water today because of “weather”.
I’m not normally a conspiracy theorist, but wtf is happening here?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92280 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:00 pm to
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I’m not normally a conspiracy theorist, but wtf is happening here?



highly doubtful there are any survivors, why risk more loss of like unnecessarily?
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:02 pm to
Im always down for a conspiracy theory but come on. We have had quite the stretch of bad weather in the area the past few days.

We had a poster say he was in the area and the current is ripping. Just because youre not seeing precipitation doesnt mean the conditions arent bad out there
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:06 pm to
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We had a poster say he was in the area and the current is ripping.


But the deckhand here said just because it is ripping on the surface doesn’t mean it is like that deeper.
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
3208 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:27 pm to
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quote:
We had a poster say he was in the area and the current is ripping.


But the deckhand here said just because it is ripping on the surface doesn’t mean it is like that deeper.


It’s only 40’ deep or so. And with all this rain pouring out into the gulf I’m sure it’s a very strong current.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18078 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:33 pm to
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Yea especially when they’re also paying for a coil unit at the time. Every hour that ticks by you’re burning through cash. The pressure obviously mounted unfortunately. Such a sad situation and a good reminder


Was there a coil unit on board? If so, do you know who’s unit?
Posted by MulletHead
Member since Jan 2021
31 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:53 pm to
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Was there a coil unit on board? If so, do you know who’s uni


Cardinal
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24215 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:00 pm to
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But the deckhand here said just because it is ripping on the surface doesn’t mean it is like that deeper.



If you are going to make fun of what I said then at least get it right.

What I said was that the surface weather didn’t necessarily relate to the conditions 50 ft down. It was in response to wind and rain, not in response to actual currents. I was saying that just because it was windy, rain, and bad seas did not necessarily mean it was unsafe to dive. If the dive boats are hindered by wind that’s a different story as in this case with the boat being sticking out of the water and not just something they could anchor over.
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:08 pm to
The Seacor Brave is a small DP-2 supply boat. It’s gonna hold position just fine in this weather. I’ve never worked with human divers though, just ROVs. I’m sure it’s probably extremely difficult to dive with the way the current was running this morning
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
17013 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:33 pm to
What company is it? I work in diving. Our boats don’t work in six foot seas. The weather offshores been rough for the last month.
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5905 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:41 pm to
We performed a lot of joint ops when I was offshore flying ROV’s with the divers. We basically were used as a mule/tool carrier and power supply for them.

Until you’ve seen 1st hand what goes on subsea, you can’t imagine it. Those divers have balls like you can’t imagine. It’s about this time of year the loop current in the gulf gets itself in gear.

Not sure if it effects the shallow water stuff as much, but in the deep water we’d have to go up current a couple of miles at times. Set the boat up to drift, launch the sub, and drift with it so we could overcome the current, and basically “land” where we needed to be.

I can 100% promise you that those on-site are doing everything they can to get to those inside.. However if you try sending divers in the water in shitty conditions, you will just be pulling out more bodies.

They are doing everything they can.

ETA: I can promise you they are forcing the divers, and support crews to stand down... when it’s some of your own, you will put yourself at risk, bc you know if the situation was reversed, they’d be doing the same for you.

One of the first things you are taught in water survival is to not go back in to rescue.. they will drill this into you every chance they can. Unfortunately it falls on deaf ears. Any of us offshore, that worked in the industry would try our best to get people out...
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 3:23 pm
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
9607 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 3:25 pm to
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The conditions at 25-50 ft down aren’t necessarily related to the surface weather. Just because it’s bad seas doesn’t mean that it’s rough underwater, and it can be bad currents underwater and appear to be flat and glassy up top. I don’t know what the situation is underwater, I’m just pointing out that getting the divers to the location and able to dive due to surface conditions does not necessarily mean conditions while down are dangerous.



Your post from the other day.
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5905 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 3:30 pm to
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small DP-2


For those that don’t understand this type of lingo. DP stand for directional positioning. You have multiple classes of dp. A dp-2 boat can hold position within a few feet if the com-pacs/ radio transmitters that are anchored to the seabed are in place along with gps.

DP-3 means they basically have back up equipment + an entirely separate bridge in place in case the primary bridge gets taken out.

This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 3:32 pm
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17880 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 4:00 pm to
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Yea especially when they’re also paying for a coil unit at the time. Every hour that ticks by you’re burning through cash. The pressure obviously mounted unfortunately. Such a sad situation and a good reminder


I am a dummy, what is a coil unit?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 4:05 pm to
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The Seacor Brave is a small DP-2 supply boat. It’s gonna hold position just fine in this weather. I’ve never worked with human divers though, just ROVs. I’m sure it’s probably extremely difficult to dive with the way the current was running this morning


Does the Brave have a stern thruster? I can’t imagine they are doing live boat diving off the brave.

There must be some smaller boats on location they are diving off of.


The Brave is just there for housing the rescue and divers. Set up as a command center
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 4:08 pm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 4:13 pm to
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DP-3 means they basically have back up equipment + an entirely separate bridge in place in case the primary bridge gets taken out.



That’s all a DP 2 vessel is. It’s all about redundancy. Separate second generator stations , separate second control stations....etc
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 4:14 pm
Posted by Douglas Quaid
Mars
Member since Mar 2010
4121 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

DP stand for dynamic positioning
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
11941 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 4:17 pm to
Id like to see ANYBODY from the OT try and dive a wreck for recovery in 6ft seas tethered wearing a dive helmet.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18078 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 4:44 pm to
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Cardinal


Damn I know some baws there. No coil hands on the boat? I know they sometimes ride the boat out and try to get some of the rig up knocked out.
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