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Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:35 am to bdavids09
quote:OSHA and government regulations handle that now. Unions are outdated in that purpose
But arent they important for Safety?
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:38 am to LSUTitan99
Pretty much everything unions ever fought for is now law. We've come a long way from Henry Ford having machine guns on top of factories.
I'm a former union member, BTW.
I'm a former union member, BTW.
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 9:39 am
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:40 am to LSUTitan99
Unions do nothing but hurt the company, the employees, and the customers in today's world.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:40 am to LSUTitan99
As vague as I can be here, but the (gay)president of one union has made it very clear that if you do not participate in their causes and parades, you are not a true member and will not be represented as such.
A majority of members are good ole boys, so I’m taking this intel as a grain of salt.
Edit: my point being this feels very contradictory to the purpose of the group and more like it’s pushing the political aspirations of the current leader.
A majority of members are good ole boys, so I’m taking this intel as a grain of salt.
Edit: my point being this feels very contradictory to the purpose of the group and more like it’s pushing the political aspirations of the current leader.
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 9:42 am
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:41 am to LSUTitan99
Why need unions when we know we can trust corporate leadership to always do what’s in the best interest of employees even at the lowest levels.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:42 am to Damone
I guess I don't understand why the big 3 auto makers, UPS, etc, don't just tell the unions "we don't need you anymore", and the employees can stay employed or be replaced.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:46 am to Damone
You can't trust union leaders to do what's best for the workers, either
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:46 am to LSUTitan99
Used to agree with you until I the rise of Amazon and how it treats it workers. Amazon has the government bought off so union is only way to go there.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:47 am to LSUTitan99
Unions are stupid unless it’s for nurses. Nursing is one of the very few professions that deserves unions, in my opinion. They are treated like machines by hospital administrators and barely crack $80,000/year in most states
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:49 am to MyRockstarComplex
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As vague as I can be here, but the (gay)president of one union has made it very clear that if you do not participate in their causes and parades, you are not a true member and will not be represented as such.
A majority of members are good ole boys, so I’m taking this intel as a grain of salt.
Edit: my point being this feels very contradictory to the purpose of the group and more like it’s pushing the political aspirations of the current leader.
NUHW? I deal with them lol and they are the worst
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 9:50 am
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:51 am to StrongOffer
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teachers unions specifically are an absolute cancer in our country and need to die.
There is absolutely zero purpose for any public sector union, teachers unions chief among them.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:52 am to JasonDBlaha
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Unions are stupid unless it’s for nurses. Nursing is one of the very few professions that deserves unions, in my opinion. They are treated like machines by hospital administrators and barely crack $80,000/year in most states
I respectfully disagree. I am in healthcare now and we pay nurses incredible wages. During CBA negotiations we sometime offer more than what the Union is asking for just so we can hire people. Nurses salaries have skyrocketed.
We have other Unions that think Nurses should be making 200k a year
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:53 am to LSUTitan99
Unions and regulations are why this nation has 0 manufacturing now.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:04 am to grizzlylongcut
And look at the standard of living for the countries that are manufacturing the products. You think maybe it's the corporations trying to squeeze every penny out of their employees instead?
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:09 am to WavinWilly
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in practice they are usually just disgustingly corrupt and unnecessarily political.
is that inherit to unions or the American business model?
Why is it that all these threads complain about the unions being corrupt while businesses fund politicians on both sides?
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:10 am to LSUTitan99
Biden may say he’s pro union but himself and his voters don’t care one thing about American blue collar workers
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:13 am to LSUTitan99
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I respectfully disagree. I am in healthcare now and we pay nurses incredible wages. During CBA negotiations we sometime offer more than what the Union is asking for just so we can hire people. Nurses salaries have skyrocketed. We have other Unions that think Nurses should be making 200k a year
Yeah it’s true that RNs make slightly above average salaries for bachelor degree professions. But the amount of schooling and requirements one has to go through to become an RN is ridiculous. BSN is just a title. The pay difference between someone who’s a BSN-RN and someone who’s only an RN is non-existent.
If someone really wanted to go into nursing for the money, I’d just tell them to stay in school longer and go the Nurse Practitioner route
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 10:17 am
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:15 am to Dire Wolf
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Why is it that all these threads complain about the unions being corrupt while businesses fund politicians on both sides?
This probably the more important issues to address but until citizen speak up money will continue to buy vote.
Sunshine laws for elections are much needed
Reverse "Citizens United" and get corporations out of the voting booth
Lobbyist (and their bought politicians) should have to wear ads like NASCAR showing where their money come from
Limit campaigns to 6 months so politicians are not spending their time in office raising money instead of working for the actual voters
Bring back the FCC law that promoted equal time
Deny US citizenship to foreign nations only going through the process to own US media
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:16 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Might be the whole idea but Unions have overstepped their bounds. They no longer make sure the average employee is treated fairly. They make sure the worst employee can't get fired for literally sleeping on the job. They make sure the good employee doesn't get a raise because that would be unfair to the worst employee.
That's a gross generalization.
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