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re: UNH's UnitedHealth CEO shot and killed

Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by TripleBarrelBluff1
Sin City
Member since Aug 2024
2430 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:06 pm to
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Homicides are statistically unlikely to be solved after 48 hours has passed.


This ain't one of those cases. This guy was in the elite class and you can be sure this case will get resources that the trailer park homicide or urban shooting would not.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29065 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:07 pm to


If anyone knows who this is call the FBill
Posted by Dean Dyess
Atlanta suburbs. Not by choice.
Member since Jul 2023
148 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:11 pm to
As soon as I heard about him being shot, I told my wife it was probably someone whose loved one had a procedure denied and died because of it.

Technically isn't committing murder every time they delay or deny a life-saving procedure?

Health Insurance should be non-profit.
Posted by The Goat
Right here, Chief
Member since Nov 2006
3001 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:18 pm to
what am I missing? I went back to watch the video and there's only 2 seconds. I'm assuming what we got yesterday was yanked?
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45527 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:22 pm to
The gun used in the shooting hasn't been recovered, sources said.

quote:

Police believe the shooter used a B&T Station Six, known in Great Britain as a Welrod pistol, according to police sources. The gun doesn't have a silencer but does have a long barrel that enables the 9 mm to fire a nearly silent shot. The gun requires manually cycling ammunition from the magazine.

MORE: Who killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson? What we know about the suspect on the run
The weapon is not easily attainable so investigators have been running down all recent purchases, according to police sources. NYPD detectives arrived Thursday at a gun shop in Connecticut that sold a weapon of the same type, sources said.


ABC
Posted by neworleansnotsouthla
Mid-City
Member since Dec 2023
631 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:29 pm to
White on white crime??
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
67800 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

Police believe the shooter used a B&T Station Six


Very unlikely. He was racking it like a normal slide (as opposed to having to unlock the bolt with a B&T), and there wouldn't have been unspent rounds left behind
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
73453 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

Health Insurance should be non-profit.



UNH profit margin in the last 4 quarters is 6%. Is a 6% profit considered ripping people off? If they went to a non-profit model, expenses go down 6%, does that move the needle on anything?

Non-troll question. And maybe deserves its own topic.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16604 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:50 pm to
LINK

On Thursday, a day after the shooting outside a hotel in Midtown Manhattan, a series of developments — details of the stay at the hostel, a possible link to a gun purchased in Connecticut, bullet casings inscribed with the words “deny” and “delay” — suggested investigators could be inching closer to identifying the gunman.

If true - seems to be someone who had someone close denied coverage. (Could be wrong, but sure seems that way).
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
9407 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:51 pm to
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56687 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

Technically isn't committing murder every time they delay or deny a life-saving procedure?


Is it murder every time someone dies during an approved procedure?
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58530 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 5:25 pm to
It’s nice how this has brought together lefties that are on medicaid and right wingers that all have blue cross
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23445 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 5:41 pm to
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bullet casings inscribed with the words “deny” and “delay” — suggested investigators could be inching closer to identifying the gunman.

If true - seems to be someone who had someone close denied coverage. (Could be wrong, but sure seems that way).


I mean sure, lol. If this was the movies this is spot on. It could be the case, I don't know.

But if you are banging his wife and want it to look like a frustrated spouse of someone that was denied coverage, that's exactly what I'd do also
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 5:42 pm
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30973 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 5:42 pm to
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Doctors in one of the Internet’s top medical communities have turned on the murdered UnitedHealthcare (UHC) CEO Brian Thompson in such brutal fashion that Reddit moderators deleted a thread on the killing.

The moderators of r/medicine closed the thread, posted Wednesday after news broke that Thompson was shot dead outside the New York Hilton hotel in Midtown Manhattan, after it racked up over 500 replies.

The commenters overwhelmingly criticized—and satirized—the insurer’s alleged denial of coverage to sick and dying Americans in order to juice profits.



And y'all thought it was just me. Most of you cannot fathom how corrupt this company is. They are not despised for being profitable, they are despised at the illegal and deceptive means by which they make their money and have gained such a foothold in healthcare. They own politicians. They have repeatedly proven to be above the law. Hopefully this will open some eyes and prompt a really comprehensive and in depth investigation into UHC and their practices. Then Humana, Cigna etc. but UHC is the worst, and they've been even worse under Brian Thompson.
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8556 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

what am I missing? I went back to watch the video and there's only 2 seconds. I'm assuming what we got yesterday was yanked?


Same, I went to show it to a guy at work and it was only 2 seconds. Could have sworn it was the whole encounter yesterday when it was originally posted.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21700 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 5:56 pm to
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UNH profit margin in the last 4 quarters is 6%. Is a 6% profit considered ripping people off? If they went to a non-profit model, expenses go down 6%, does that move the needle on anything?

Non-troll question. And maybe deserves its own topic.


Considering the cost of operating expenses, overhead, etc, the cost to the average consumer is way higher than 6%, for very questionable value.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:04 pm to
Is this thread gonna go the way of health insurance bitching or true crime detective type information?

If it's the former, I'll check out of this thread.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30046 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:09 pm to
quote:


UNH profit margin in the last 4 quarters is 6%. Is a 6% profit considered ripping people off? If they went to a non-profit model, expenses go down 6%, does that move the needle on anything?

Non-troll question. And maybe deserves its own topic.


That margin is leaving out what may be massively bloated upper management and C-suite compensation structure. In a "perfect" world you would not have that in an ideal non-profit so the numbers might look significantly different. That said there is no perfect world and no ideal non-profit so it is possible with a shift to non-profit the numbers might stay the same or get even "worse" for the insured. US healthcare is broken in many ways but there are no simple and certainly no perfect solutions when humans are involved.
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
5374 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

Witnesses say he hung around the building for hours prior to the murder.


Surveillance video has him exiting the nearest subway stop at 615 am and is at a Starbucks prior to 630 am.
The perp was not likely on site more than 15 minutes prior to the shooting.

quote:

Could be using it as cover and not really on a call?


It's a stretch to say he is pretending to talk with someone on a cell phone. Most likely, he was communicating with another person who had the victim under surveillance.

Posted by gdzgft28
Member since Nov 2015
937 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

Technically isn't committing murder every time they delay or deny a life-saving procedure? Health Insurance should be non-profit.


You think care isn’t denied in all healthcare systems?
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