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re: UNH's UnitedHealth CEO shot and killed
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:23 pm to SmackoverHawg
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:23 pm to SmackoverHawg
Are you a dentist?
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I’ve long been a proponent of cash based healthcare.
Mutual aid societies, baw.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:24 pm to N2cars
Global Obesity Observatory
Sorry we are actually 19th.
It was filtered to Adult Males, in which we are 10th.
I mean its a pretty well known fact the American health care system is designed to treat after the fact.
Why do you think we spend more on healthcare than any other country?
Everyone is fat and by the time we catch things, its often too late
Sorry we are actually 19th.
It was filtered to Adult Males, in which we are 10th.
I mean its a pretty well known fact the American health care system is designed to treat after the fact.
Why do you think we spend more on healthcare than any other country?
Everyone is fat and by the time we catch things, its often too late
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:28 pm to Metrybaw
People do not understand their EOB ( Explanation of Benefits). It is right there for them top see Dr.s and Hospitals do not set the rate. The Insurance companies have contracted rates for a given service/ procedure. If the Dr charge 200 for a given service and UHC allows 60 bucks then the reimbursement is 60 minus the patients co-pay. So say co-pay is 40 bucks UHC send the Dr 20 bucks and the balance of 140 is written off. Insurance companies never seem to increase allowables for much of anything and usually have found ways to limit charges over the years.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:28 pm to Metrybaw
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Think he would’ve made it if the ambulance ride didn’t need a prior auth?
LOL
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:29 pm to Squedunk
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:34 pm to Crowknowsbest
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I would say the difference lies in consumer choice. There is far more consumer choice and competition in both food and housing, especially compared to high dollar specialized healthcare treatments.
You can mostly thank provider consolidation for that, not the payer side. And the AMA and the (somewhat) artificial restriction of supply of residency slots.
Provider-side antitrust needs to be a much bigger issue than it is, potentially far more important than payer antitrust. That's an area Lina Khan and the DoJ need to be hammering with a motherfricking chainsaw.
But it's politically more expedient and a lot easier to sell to the public when you go after United or Anthem or BCBS. Not so easy to go after Northwestern Medicine or UAB-Ascension St. Vincent's; they are the good guys to local communities, sponsor local teams, employ a lot of people locally, etc.
But they are, by far, the bigger culprits when it comes to anticompetitive practices in American healthcare.
People dislike the insurance companies because they are the allocator of resources. Healthcare resources are not infinite, and someone has to do that; God forbid what a shitshow that would be if it were a public entity.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:38 pm to WaydownSouth
I'll give you props; you had the balls to reply.
Now, do the avg lifespans of those ahitholes.
Thst said, we have some fatasses here
Now, do the avg lifespans of those ahitholes.
Thst said, we have some fatasses here
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:42 pm to N2cars
Please explain how our health system is to blame for the fact that a male aged 25 in America has a death rate 3 times higher than a male in Finland.
Men aged 25 do not have medical problems.
Men aged 25 do not have medical problems.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:49 pm to iron banks
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If the Dr charge 200 for a given service and UHC allows 60 bucks then the reimbursement is 60 minus the patients co-pay. So say co-pay is 40 bucks UHC send the Dr 20 bucks and the balance of 140 is written off. Insurance companies never seem to increase allowables for much of anything and usually have found ways to limit charges over the years.
If you're lucky and after you've refiled it 10 f$%king times with UNH. That's why I refuse to deal with them. All insurers are shite, but UNH is the worst.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:50 pm to Saunson69
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Because 999 out of 1,000 people will have 0 idea who he is the CEO of UNH as they walk by him.
Well shite. I guess that moves me further up the list. I did have two employees in New York today. Both female though.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:58 pm to SmackoverHawg
I’ve never had a problem with them from the customer side. We are also a young relatively healthy family though
I think this hit had something to do with the insider trading investigation
I think this hit had something to do with the insider trading investigation
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:06 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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I’ve never had a problem with them from the customer side.
What a lot of people don’t understand is that one person’s “United Health insurance” is not the same as the next. There are probably thousands of different “United Health” plans. The plans for retirees from, say, the phone company differ from the plans for retirees of the school system. Those differ from the plans offered by various employers to their working employees. Then you have your Obamacare exchange plans and your United Health medicaid plans. All differ on what they pay for, what’s covered, and what the consumer’s portion is. People say “I have United Health and they are great.” or “I have them and they suck.” Both may be right. Many factors are involved in which one YOU get.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:07 pm to Rick9Plus
He was facing insider trading probe, so probably a stock holder.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:09 pm to Rick9Plus
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What a lot of people don’t understand is that one person’s “United Health insurance” is not the same as the next.
That's true! My company used UH for a few years. We have now been with BCBS for a few years. Not much has changed from company to company. However, when I used to tell people we had UH, many would freak out about their own UH, describing plans that cost 3X more than ours.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:09 pm to kywildcatfanone
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He was facing insider trading probe, so probably a stock holder.
One of the allegations was that they were artificially keeping stock prices high. I would think stockholders would be happy with that.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:19 pm to WaydownSouth
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Why do you think we spend more on healthcare than any other country?
I think you'd do better by asking how much the 18th and 20th countries spend for the same results.
My bet is Belize and Saudi Arabia spend far less than we do.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:20 pm to SmackoverHawg
Pretty sure the rates are negotiated. Insurers go out of network with provider systems all the time because they can’t come to an agreement.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:35 pm to NYNolaguy1
Do you honestly believe Saudi Arabia and Belize have better hospitals, medical technology, and doctors than America?
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:39 pm to NYNolaguy1
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My bet is Belize and Saudi Arabia spend far less than we do.
My bet is the data is fraudulent or they manipulate the patient base to make numbers look better
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