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re: UNH's UnitedHealth CEO shot and killed

Posted on 12/4/24 at 6:30 pm to
Posted by Mikey P
Gulfport, MS
Member since May 2017
536 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 6:30 pm to
I haven’t seen this addressed yet. The CEO of a major corporation and he’s walking down the street by himself. Why did he not have a security guy or security detail with him?
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19618 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 6:32 pm to
I am thinking now that the shell casings Cops found were decoys from another gun meant to throw them off.

He is clearly taking care to catch the casings in the video. So for him to leave 3 casings (and supposedly a few dropped bullets) makes no sense.
Posted by MisslePig
Member since Jul 2018
1174 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 6:35 pm to
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They have a great private system and it's much cheaper than ours


No it’s not, you’re forgetting you pay for the system you’re not using…it’s much more expensive and worse.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 6:35 pm
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
23080 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 6:36 pm to
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And grabbing the spent casings as he racked.


Sure is. He’s cupping them as he racks the next round.

He’s also got a full back pack on incase his get away plan goes wrong.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31608 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 6:40 pm to
Won't be the first time.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
80905 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 6:44 pm to
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You wouldn’t expect that a professional wouldn’t have a weapon that has a malfunction with every squeeze of the trigger. But there could be a reason for that. Did he travel to the city and have to rely on someone else for that pistol? Does his past prevent him from buying? Even if he could legally possess a firearm he isn’t walking into a gun store to purchase a firearm he is taking on a hit. The tool he used isnt the indicator here. He didn’t let equipment prevent him from completing the job.


If it's a ghost/untraceable weapon why not leave it at the scene?

Sounds counterintuitive but there's a reason for "Leave the gun, take the cannoli".
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39644 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 6:46 pm to
It's threads like this that remind me how completely frickin' ignorant most people are.

Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
8230 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 6:47 pm to
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The CEO of a major corporation and he’s walking down the street by himself. Why did he not have a security guy or security detail with him?


Because 999 out of 1,000 people will have 0 idea who he is the CEO of UNH as they walk by him.
Posted by Barbados
Member since Nov 2024
2089 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 6:50 pm to
Rich famous people walk around the streets of NYC all the time
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11162 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 6:51 pm to
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Because we have, by far, the most unhealthy population in the Western world. We're, as a whole, fricking disgusting.


Because Americans are absolutely awful at practicing preventive healthcare.

Don't work out, don't eat right. Don't go to your yearly check up that is covered by every insurance.

All good until you run to the urgent care for something and discover your blood pressure is sky high and cholesterol levels are elevated.

No telling how long its been elevated and how much damage has already been done to your body.

Now you either make lifestyle changes (very few do this), continue to be a walking heart attack in waiting, or get put on medications and become reliant on the medical system to prevent you from killing yourself.

I don't know the numbers, but I'd estimate 60%-70% of hospital admissions could have been prevented by diet and exercise.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37062 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 6:57 pm to
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Healthcare in America is largely expensive because of what providers and hospitals bill to insurance

And they have to inflate billing to insurance companies because of the reimbursement rates of Medicare, Medicaid, and uninsured (aka zero).
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 6:59 pm to
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Because Americans are absolutely awful at practicing preventive healthcare.

Don't work out, don't eat right. Don't go to your yearly check up that is covered by every insurance.



Curious as to the rates of peer countries and their citizens doing these things vs Americans to make that claim.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:00 pm to
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And they have to inflate billing to insurance companies because of the reimbursement rates of Medicare, Medicaid, and uninsured (aka zero).


Funny how if insurance companies disappear the cost of service goes down. Who benefits from their existence again?
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11162 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:14 pm to
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Curious as to the rates of peer countries and their citizens doing these things vs Americans to make that claim.


We're 10th in the world in obesity rates...

You don't get fat by exercising and eating right
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39644 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:14 pm to
Good luck


He doesn't know shite.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74190 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:17 pm to
I’ve long been a proponent of cash based healthcare.

It’s what we had for most of American history and prices were much lower (adjusted for inflation) than now.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39644 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:19 pm to
Cite it.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31608 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:19 pm to
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Healthcare in America is largely expensive because of what providers and hospitals bill to insurance

Insurers set the rates dumbass. I haven't had a fricking raise from them in 20 years. GFY and get educated on the subject before spouting such dumbassery.

Do you even know how insurers make money? Do you understand that the more money they handle, the more money they can make? Do you realize that THEY have been the main drivers behind healthcare costs over the past 30-40 years. Can you even afford to risk not having their shitty expensive products anymore? No.
Posted by Metrybaw
Member since Apr 2022
227 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:20 pm to
Think he would’ve made it if the ambulance ride didn’t need a prior auth?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74190 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:21 pm to
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The group of Americans who USE THE HEALTH SYSTEM THE MOST (aka the elderly) have outcomes in line or higher than the elderly in other peer nations.

American life expectancy for those in the 25-29 age group (aka those who are least likely to die from illness related things) is 3 times higher than Europeans aged 25-29
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